During Michael’s life there were stories planted about him, people hoped after his death it would finally stop. I hoped that too but meanwhile these hopes keep getting pushed down in the ground hard while one story after another storie seems to come out these days. I feel there are some fans being used here, they are taken advantage of because of their good Faith and their willingness to fight to get justice for Michael. So what i’m about to say is totally not ment against these people but it’s ment against their so called sources.
It all started with Brian Oxman, a man who once was Michael’s lawyer but got fired on april 21st 2005. This same Brian Oxman who started to say in 2007 that Michael would perform with his brothers again. And it happens to be the first person who came straight of the hospital meeting the press after the word was out that Michael was gone. Ever since that day he has been claiming the addiction story, and he still claimes that today. This man imo sure likes to be in the spotlight and loves being the centre of attention.
Brian Oxman knows exactly how to play the fans violin. He knows just how badly the fans want to do something to fight for Michael one last time and he is taking advantage of them. He opend a facebook page where he first asked fans to join him to fight for higher charges. And of course fans joined him and posted this on facebook everywhere. Again i have to say i don’t blame the fans for this, they are just looking for a way so they can actually do something and since Brian Oxman is a public figure and is well known they really believe him.
The thing is that none of them seem to understand that Brian Oxman is still claiming Michael was an addict, something that is proven untrue in the autopsy report. He even was on a radioshow Saturday februari 27th 2010 where he said the autopsy said that Michael had an acute and progressive brainswelling wich was caused by the abuse of drugs. Listen to the radioshow. Now before you start believing these comment Brian Oxman made you have to know that what he said was not in the autopsy report at all. There was a mild brainswelling mention in the autopsy report, but it was considerd normal for a person at the age of 50. Also the autopsy report does not link this mild swelling as being drugrelated like Brian Oxman is claiming. So in my opinion if Brian Oxman would really want justice for Michael he would stop these addiction claims right hereright now…those claims are just as bogus as the Chandler and Arvizo’s claims. I don’t know what Brian Oxman’s agenda is here but it sure isn’t getting justice for Michael.
This however isn’t the only thing that doesn’t add up with Brian Oxman. In the same interview he says he doesn’t think there was a conspiracy to kill Michael, but that there is a conspiracy when it comes down to Michael’s assets. I find that very very strange considering he is saying to represent the Jackson family. After all aren’t some of the family members saying there was a conspiracy to kill Michael? So this lawyer Brian Oxman who does he really represent if he makes other claims than some family members do? He can’t be representing the entire Jackson family if he claims something differently can he?
Some people on facebook are just following Brian Oxman’s words blindly but others seem to think more about what they are hearing and seeing from him. This last group is even asking Brian Oxman questions about things he’s saying. And until today he hasn’t answered those questions, not on facebook and not by private mail. It has happend a lot on facebook when people make claimes and than are questioned about it.
Another strange thing just happend yesterday with Brian Oxman’s facebook, it dissepeared. I’m not saying it happend on purpose, it might just have been a crazy coincidence. But there is something else going on at the same time. The word got out that somebody on facebook got an anonymous letter through facebook claiming there was a fight between Michael and Conrad Murray and that after that Conrad Murray filled a needle till the top and give Michael this injection. It seems that security has heard this argument and that Conrad Murray left after that. There is also the mentioning about the DA and LAPD not being interested in this information. Apperently that same person dissapeared on facebook shortly after he sent that message. Now i know one thing about facebook and that is that you can’t sent an anonymous letter through facebook messages. And for me it’s a bit to much of a coincidence that this person diseaperd from facebook after that message. So i’m guessing the source of this letter is once again Brian Oxman.
Also this is linked to another story about Conrad Murray gone missing for four hours to go to a prostitute and that Conrad Murray left Michael to die. This story was put out before the autopsy report was made public. Anybody who has seen and read the autopsy report knows that this story doesn’t fit in no matter how much you want it to fit. If i than take a look at the story that has come out now it fits even less, and yet there are people out there wanting to make us believe both of the stories are true.
Both of the stories claim to have been told by an inside source and security to an author. This same author is asking fans to put the stories out and keeps his/her mouth shut about it until the stories are on a role. At the same time this author has close contacts with Brian Oxman, and the author is even gonna speak at some kind of conference in june. It will not be a surprice if i say to you that Brian Oxman is also gonna attend that very same conference where people have to pay 400$ for to be able to attend this conference.
I’m not saying this author and this facebook person are lying what i am saying however is that they are being lied to. I personally have contact with these people and i know how much they want to see justice done for Michael. And i really feel bad for both of them to see how they are being used. Unfortunally they are not the only ones being used. I hope some day they won’t be blinded so much anymore by their quest to get justice and see what me and others are seeing about what’s happening to them.
Brian Oxman is also claiming that Michael’s will is fake and that Michael’s real will is missing. Now i know he’s not the only one claiming this and i am no expert on saying that this will is fake or not but i do know this will is very simular as the will that was written before this one. The only big difference is that in this will Michael has added Blanket in there as well. People claim a lot of things about this will but the truth is the things that really matter in this will aren’t in the will, these things are written down in the trust, a trust that will never be open for us to watch. The people who are fighting this will are the same people that always tried to get money from Michael when he was still alive and gosh did they wish to get their own hands on Michael’s assets when he got killed. Just imagne how dissepointed they all must be for not getting anything to keep their lifestiles going without having to work themselfs for their own money now. You bet that that pissed some people of.
We must not forget that Michael was a very smart man and i’m betting on it that he made damn sure that he put very specific instructions in that trust. And if Michael would have written a new will i’m also sure he would have left it at the hands of people he could really trust. I for one wouldn’t put my will in any familymembers hand for safe keeping, and i know i’m not Michael but if i was and i would have written a new will i would have given it to T-Mez for safe keeping.
I’m still not done yet cause Brian Oxman also pointed out at a Michael Jackson Convention in Milan, Italy that the ambulance picture that was taken from Michael is fake. I have to admit in all honesty that i believe that picture is fake. What i don’t believe about it is what Brian Oxman says about it. He tells it is a fabricated pic from Michael on stage. He’s using a theorie here wich was made by the so called “hoax” believers. Not that i have anything against the”hoax” believers, cause they are just fans like me and you they are also doing research but take things another way than fans like me do. But by using a pic and theorie from this group he makes himself really incredible.
A thing i would really point out is that a lot of people say follow the money and that there’s a big blame game going on towards anybody that makes money from Michael’s death. In my opinion these people doing this blame game should put Brian Oxman on that very same list cause he is making a whole lot of money by doing these conferences and i bet it won’t take long before his book comes out with his headspins. There is one thing i know for sure…if you are looking for a way to get to the truth and to get justice for Michael…Brian Oxman is NOT your man to follow.
Wednesday, March 3, 2010
Saturday, February 20, 2010
Part Thirty Three - Changing the Timeline
Let me start by apologizing for jumping back and forward the way i do at this moment. This all has to do a lot with things that are going on in this case right now. Somehow Conrad Murray’s Lawyers feel a huge need to talk about the timeline and proof it with a voicemail that has been put out this last week. I don’t know how this works for you but to me it’s like they try to grab every little bit of hope to clear Conrad Murray, but for me it only does the oposite.
Now first a bit about the timeline changings. We’ve all heard off or read about Conrad Murray’s decleration he give to the police. For those who don’t remember Conrad Murray told the police he give Michael 25mg Propofol at 10.40am, stayed at Michael’s side for 10 minutes and than went to the bathroom for 2 minutes and when he returned he found Michael not breathing but with a faint pulse. Conrad Murray’s lawyers made it very clear that they felt that the timeline the LAPD had written down was based on police theorie. The lawyers never made it clear to us why they claimed this.
We also know Conrad Murray has changed the timeline himself a while back and said that he found Michael around noon instead of around 11.00am. Right now his lawyers seem to say the same thing. They are doing this in interviews with tabloids, http://www.theinsider.com/news/3199577_Lawyer_Dr._Conrad_Murray_Gave_Police_Incorrect_Timeline Attorney J Michael Flanagan’s says and i quote: “the original timeline of events that Murray provided to police was incorrect.” Basicly he’s saying Conrad Murray give the wrong timeline to the police in the interview they all had with the LAPD on June 27th. So to me it seems the lawyers jumped from their story that “The timeline was based on police theorie” to the story “Our client didn’t have his facts straight when he talked to the LAPD”.
The strange thing is they want to support this with a recording from a voicemail message Conrad Murray made to one of his clients, Bob Russell. The word is that this call was made about half an hour before 911 was called, so that would be around 11.52am. This is exactly one hour later than Conrad Murray told the police in his interview with the LAPD on June27th about when he found Michael. You can listen to the voicemail here : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35445240/ns/dateline_nbc-newsmakers/
I don’t know how this voicemail sits with you but i find it very odd that this voicemail wich is claimed to be taped on June 25th only surfaces now. If this voicemail was really from that date why didn’t Conrad Murray’s lawyers release it sooner to proof their point that the timeline was just police theorie?
At the end of the voicemail i hear a strange sound, like a person that was breathing havy. Some how i have the feeling that Conrad Murray and his lawyers are going to claim that it was Michael we heard breathing at the background.
Also another strange thing with this voicemail is that Conrad Murray’s voice seems way different than the voice we hear in the video message he made shortly after Michael was killed. The voice in that video message seems higher than the one of the voicemail message. And the accent doesn’t match up either. In the voicemail message i hear a man speaking with a voice that sounds like he just woke up or that he was under the influence of alcohol or drugs.
In all honesty i have to say i’m not an expert on this it’s just some things i noticed while i listend to this voicemail and the conclusions i draw by comparing it with this video message Conrad Murray made. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2jnVYE01BA
Now i’ve also found another clip of that voicemail wich comes from radar online… I know it’s also a gossip outlet but i want you all to listen to it http://www.radaronline.com/videos#/66872310001 if you compare that voicemail with the other one from msnbc it sounds way more like the video message Conrad Murray made. So we have to wonder about a few things here.
- Why did this story about this voicemail come out sooner?
- Are both clips from part of the same voicemail recording?
- If they are part of the same voicemail recording than how can it be that the voices seem different in both voicemail clips?
- If they are not part of the same voicemail recording than why are there two clips?
- If they are not part of the same voicemail recording than wich one is real?
- Or are both voicemail recordings a set up for giving Conrad Murray an excuse about the timeline and neither one of these two voicemails is real?
Well i’m just gonna tell you what i think about these voicemail recording. The thought i have is that one of these voicemails might be real but the message is something totally different than it litterly says. I can’t stop but wonder what if this voicemail was made to make it clear that the job was done? A way to let the other side know that Michael was gone? At the same time Conrad Murray leaving this voicemail message behind also gives him an opertunity to try and clear his name.
I know that what i’m saying might be a far stretch, but you all know that i believe there are more people involved, and this voicemail recording might just prove that there were indeed more people involved. I guess it all depends on the view you have on everything that has hapend to Michael. Not only your view on what happend on June 25th but also your view on what happend before and after that faithfull day, June 25th 2009.
Now first a bit about the timeline changings. We’ve all heard off or read about Conrad Murray’s decleration he give to the police. For those who don’t remember Conrad Murray told the police he give Michael 25mg Propofol at 10.40am, stayed at Michael’s side for 10 minutes and than went to the bathroom for 2 minutes and when he returned he found Michael not breathing but with a faint pulse. Conrad Murray’s lawyers made it very clear that they felt that the timeline the LAPD had written down was based on police theorie. The lawyers never made it clear to us why they claimed this.
We also know Conrad Murray has changed the timeline himself a while back and said that he found Michael around noon instead of around 11.00am. Right now his lawyers seem to say the same thing. They are doing this in interviews with tabloids, http://www.theinsider.com/news/3199577_Lawyer_Dr._Conrad_Murray_Gave_Police_Incorrect_Timeline Attorney J Michael Flanagan’s says and i quote: “the original timeline of events that Murray provided to police was incorrect.” Basicly he’s saying Conrad Murray give the wrong timeline to the police in the interview they all had with the LAPD on June 27th. So to me it seems the lawyers jumped from their story that “The timeline was based on police theorie” to the story “Our client didn’t have his facts straight when he talked to the LAPD”.
The strange thing is they want to support this with a recording from a voicemail message Conrad Murray made to one of his clients, Bob Russell. The word is that this call was made about half an hour before 911 was called, so that would be around 11.52am. This is exactly one hour later than Conrad Murray told the police in his interview with the LAPD on June27th about when he found Michael. You can listen to the voicemail here : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35445240/ns/dateline_nbc-newsmakers/
I don’t know how this voicemail sits with you but i find it very odd that this voicemail wich is claimed to be taped on June 25th only surfaces now. If this voicemail was really from that date why didn’t Conrad Murray’s lawyers release it sooner to proof their point that the timeline was just police theorie?
At the end of the voicemail i hear a strange sound, like a person that was breathing havy. Some how i have the feeling that Conrad Murray and his lawyers are going to claim that it was Michael we heard breathing at the background.
Also another strange thing with this voicemail is that Conrad Murray’s voice seems way different than the voice we hear in the video message he made shortly after Michael was killed. The voice in that video message seems higher than the one of the voicemail message. And the accent doesn’t match up either. In the voicemail message i hear a man speaking with a voice that sounds like he just woke up or that he was under the influence of alcohol or drugs.
In all honesty i have to say i’m not an expert on this it’s just some things i noticed while i listend to this voicemail and the conclusions i draw by comparing it with this video message Conrad Murray made. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2jnVYE01BA
Now i’ve also found another clip of that voicemail wich comes from radar online… I know it’s also a gossip outlet but i want you all to listen to it http://www.radaronline.com/videos#/66872310001 if you compare that voicemail with the other one from msnbc it sounds way more like the video message Conrad Murray made. So we have to wonder about a few things here.
- Why did this story about this voicemail come out sooner?
- Are both clips from part of the same voicemail recording?
- If they are part of the same voicemail recording than how can it be that the voices seem different in both voicemail clips?
- If they are not part of the same voicemail recording than why are there two clips?
- If they are not part of the same voicemail recording than wich one is real?
- Or are both voicemail recordings a set up for giving Conrad Murray an excuse about the timeline and neither one of these two voicemails is real?
Well i’m just gonna tell you what i think about these voicemail recording. The thought i have is that one of these voicemails might be real but the message is something totally different than it litterly says. I can’t stop but wonder what if this voicemail was made to make it clear that the job was done? A way to let the other side know that Michael was gone? At the same time Conrad Murray leaving this voicemail message behind also gives him an opertunity to try and clear his name.
I know that what i’m saying might be a far stretch, but you all know that i believe there are more people involved, and this voicemail recording might just prove that there were indeed more people involved. I guess it all depends on the view you have on everything that has hapend to Michael. Not only your view on what happend on June 25th but also your view on what happend before and after that faithfull day, June 25th 2009.
Monday, February 15, 2010
Part ThirtyTwo - The TII Movie Deal
On October 27th 2009 the “This Is It” movie went into the cinema’s worldwide. But before it was released fans, familie and friends seemed to be devided into two camps. On one hand we had a group who where against the release of the movie. These people planned all kinds of actions for the premiere.
There were talks that there would be people walking around with a golden casket, people raising money for billboards, people handing out flyers etc, there were even people advising others not to go see the movie. Hence they even blamed people who did want to see the movie and tell these people stuff like: “Well enjoy looking at a man walking towards his death” and “Go and enjoy your popcorn.” This all because these people felt that Michael didn’t want us to see the rehearsels and because they feel AEG is also responsable for Michael’s murder. But i do agree on the point they made that Michael didn’t want us to see the rehearsels because he wanted us to see the shows.
To me it really didn’t matter why they would plan actions like this because i found it was wrong to do back than and i still don’t agree with them for doing and saying the things they did. They should have shown more respect towards the people who wanted to see the movie. Because there were people out there who wanted to see Michael one more time and say goodbye to Michael by going to see the movie, pay their last respects and honor the man they admired and loved no matter what. This group didn’t want Michael’s last work to be for nothing and go to waist. To be honest I belonged to the group that went to the cinema to go and see Michael in the TII Movie.
Eventhough this where just rehearsels i was blown away from what i got to see. Sometimes i wanted to reach out to the screen and touch Michael. To me he looked happy to be on the stage again and see him enjoy making Music and dance. It also proves to me what i already thought and that was that in no way Michael was an addict around the time of his death. I realize very well that this movie was edited, but you can’t put a smile on somebody’s face during editing. Instead of getting some closeur i got more and more confused, and i wondered how was it possible that he was gone? It was just imposible that the man i saw on the bigscreen died just like that. . I was now more convinced that my first thoughts about Michael being killed on purpose where right .
One of the biggest misconceptions is the movie deal “the Estate” and AEG made. People think the way the profits would be devided is a scam and that the 90% for the estate and 10% for AEG is wrong, because Columbia pictures wich is the movie devision of Sony would get the first 135 million dollars. This realy isn’t strange, wierd, illegal or whatever people want to call this deal. Columbia Pictures isn’t a philantrophic movement it’s a business, and just like any other business out there they are out there to make profits. As harsh as it sounds that’s how it was in the past, that’s how it is today and that is how it will always be in the future.
Columbia Pictures bought the rights for the rehearsels video’s and they payed 60million dollars for it. So the other 75million dollar that is put on top of it is to pay the people who worked on making this movie like production costs, technicians, editors etc. There is also the promotion they had to do, making posters buying commercial time etc. I often have the idea that not to many people get it how much money these kind of things all costs. So in my eyes as unreasonable it might sound to some of the fans it’s only fair that Colombia Pictures at least earn back the money they have invested.
The “This Is It” movie made 252 million dollars WorldWide. Minus the 135 million dollars for Columbia Pictures there was 117 million dollars to divede between AEG and “The Estate”. AEG got 10% of that 117 million that equals an amount of 11.7 millions for AEG and 105.3 million dollars for “The Estate”. Also keep in mind that this is all gonna be out on DVD and Blue Ray as well wich doesn’t bring anymore money in the pockets of Columbia Pictures cause everything that is going to be earned by these sales will go to “The Estate” and AEG. When you keep all this in the back of your minds there is now way on earth you can say “the Estate” got a bad deal, in the end it was the estate that benifited the most of the “This Is It” movie. And isn’t that what we all wanted, “The Estate” as the big winner in this deal?
When you look at the contract between Michael and AEG that they made for the “This Is IT” concerts, you will find out that this is the same kind of deal as was made for the “This Is It” movie deal. You can read on the second page subjest 4 Artist compensation of that contract that Michael would also get 90% and AEG would get 10% of the profits from the concerts. http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/AEG%20contract.pdf This means after AEG got paid for all the money they upfronted to make these shows happen than the split of 90% for Michael and 10% for AEG was going to happen.
I know not many people do want to read about the contracts stuff etc, many of the fans just seem to just go by what they hear and not by what might be written in these kind of Legal papers. But when you really wanna talk about things like this it means you also have to take a look at the bigger picture of it all. You just can sit there and say well i draw my own conclusions by what i’ve heard without having checked the facts, and you most certainly can’t attack fans who do investigate and point things like this out to others.
I’m not saying i’m happy with Sony being involved in this all. But me not being happy about that is based on my personal feelings i have against Sony, just like most other fans feel towards Sony. And even though i would have loved to have seen that it was another company involved than Columbia Pictures aka Sony, i can’t dismiss the facts about this deal.
There were talks that there would be people walking around with a golden casket, people raising money for billboards, people handing out flyers etc, there were even people advising others not to go see the movie. Hence they even blamed people who did want to see the movie and tell these people stuff like: “Well enjoy looking at a man walking towards his death” and “Go and enjoy your popcorn.” This all because these people felt that Michael didn’t want us to see the rehearsels and because they feel AEG is also responsable for Michael’s murder. But i do agree on the point they made that Michael didn’t want us to see the rehearsels because he wanted us to see the shows.
To me it really didn’t matter why they would plan actions like this because i found it was wrong to do back than and i still don’t agree with them for doing and saying the things they did. They should have shown more respect towards the people who wanted to see the movie. Because there were people out there who wanted to see Michael one more time and say goodbye to Michael by going to see the movie, pay their last respects and honor the man they admired and loved no matter what. This group didn’t want Michael’s last work to be for nothing and go to waist. To be honest I belonged to the group that went to the cinema to go and see Michael in the TII Movie.
Eventhough this where just rehearsels i was blown away from what i got to see. Sometimes i wanted to reach out to the screen and touch Michael. To me he looked happy to be on the stage again and see him enjoy making Music and dance. It also proves to me what i already thought and that was that in no way Michael was an addict around the time of his death. I realize very well that this movie was edited, but you can’t put a smile on somebody’s face during editing. Instead of getting some closeur i got more and more confused, and i wondered how was it possible that he was gone? It was just imposible that the man i saw on the bigscreen died just like that. . I was now more convinced that my first thoughts about Michael being killed on purpose where right .
One of the biggest misconceptions is the movie deal “the Estate” and AEG made. People think the way the profits would be devided is a scam and that the 90% for the estate and 10% for AEG is wrong, because Columbia pictures wich is the movie devision of Sony would get the first 135 million dollars. This realy isn’t strange, wierd, illegal or whatever people want to call this deal. Columbia Pictures isn’t a philantrophic movement it’s a business, and just like any other business out there they are out there to make profits. As harsh as it sounds that’s how it was in the past, that’s how it is today and that is how it will always be in the future.
Columbia Pictures bought the rights for the rehearsels video’s and they payed 60million dollars for it. So the other 75million dollar that is put on top of it is to pay the people who worked on making this movie like production costs, technicians, editors etc. There is also the promotion they had to do, making posters buying commercial time etc. I often have the idea that not to many people get it how much money these kind of things all costs. So in my eyes as unreasonable it might sound to some of the fans it’s only fair that Colombia Pictures at least earn back the money they have invested.
The “This Is It” movie made 252 million dollars WorldWide. Minus the 135 million dollars for Columbia Pictures there was 117 million dollars to divede between AEG and “The Estate”. AEG got 10% of that 117 million that equals an amount of 11.7 millions for AEG and 105.3 million dollars for “The Estate”. Also keep in mind that this is all gonna be out on DVD and Blue Ray as well wich doesn’t bring anymore money in the pockets of Columbia Pictures cause everything that is going to be earned by these sales will go to “The Estate” and AEG. When you keep all this in the back of your minds there is now way on earth you can say “the Estate” got a bad deal, in the end it was the estate that benifited the most of the “This Is It” movie. And isn’t that what we all wanted, “The Estate” as the big winner in this deal?
When you look at the contract between Michael and AEG that they made for the “This Is IT” concerts, you will find out that this is the same kind of deal as was made for the “This Is It” movie deal. You can read on the second page subjest 4 Artist compensation of that contract that Michael would also get 90% and AEG would get 10% of the profits from the concerts. http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/AEG%20contract.pdf This means after AEG got paid for all the money they upfronted to make these shows happen than the split of 90% for Michael and 10% for AEG was going to happen.
I know not many people do want to read about the contracts stuff etc, many of the fans just seem to just go by what they hear and not by what might be written in these kind of Legal papers. But when you really wanna talk about things like this it means you also have to take a look at the bigger picture of it all. You just can sit there and say well i draw my own conclusions by what i’ve heard without having checked the facts, and you most certainly can’t attack fans who do investigate and point things like this out to others.
I’m not saying i’m happy with Sony being involved in this all. But me not being happy about that is based on my personal feelings i have against Sony, just like most other fans feel towards Sony. And even though i would have loved to have seen that it was another company involved than Columbia Pictures aka Sony, i can’t dismiss the facts about this deal.
Wednesday, February 10, 2010
Part ThirtyOne - The Autopsy report
On Monday Februari 8th 2010 Michael’s autopsyreport was released. I for one was happy that that report is finally in the open. Not because it’s a fun thing to read, but it at leads sheds a little more light about his health and what was in his body when Michael was killed. By the looks of it, it seems to confirm the things we heard of with the second leaked autopsy report.
I know this released report won’t stop the media or others to keep claiming addiction although there is nothing in that report to support those claims. Some people will claim the coronor tampered with this autopsy report and will even say the coronor was paid of by AEG or others to make the report like this. Well i hope that the people who claim things like this put a sock in it. As a matter of fact the people around Michael that were so bold to claim addiction in public should imo now appologize in public about those claims and for not believing Michael…You guys did him wrong…
I will put a link up but i do this with a warning…don’t read the full autopsy report if you have doubts that you’re up to it. For those who don’t want to or can’t bring themselfs to read it i will try to explain some things in the easiest way i can about this report. For those of you who want to read it here’s the link: Autopsy Report
General Health:
Michael’s general health seems to be as good as can be expected. We must not forget we are talking about a 50 year old man here. And it’s pretty common to read things like artrithes, enlarged prostate, some plaque build up in some of the arteries. The condition of the organs all support that he was in good health. Although they did find inflamation of the lungs this did not contribute to his death. His weight was withing normal range but on thow side of normal 136 pounds and is thin.
The coronor clearly mentions Vitiligo and signs of Vitiligo in the report. Although the coronor doesn’t mention Lupus directly, he does mention sign related to Lupus. Keep in mind that Vitiligo also is on of the signs of Lupus and the inflamed lungs can be a sign of that to. Lupus is not something you can diagnose just like that because it is a dissease that you only diagnose by connecting the dots the right way.
Cause of death:
We all know the cause of that was ruled Acute Propofol Intoxication and that the coronor ruled Michael’s death a homicide. The coronor explains in the autopsy report why he came to the conclusion that is was a homicide. The amount of propofol in Michael’s body and the place of where the iv was would have made it impossible for Michael to be able to inject the propofol himself. The amount of propofol was so high that he was gone within seconds. The report seems to suggests that the amount of propofol found was given by a bolus injection.
At Michael’s house there were multiple empty bottles of propofol found. The report is not clear about how many bottles that where. But if you look at the list of meds that where found there were 3 100ml vials of propofol and 8 20ml vails of propofol. None of the bottles of propofol had prescription direction, a patient’s name or a doctor’s name on it.
As can be expected the propofol was found in the intire body. People who think this is strange have to realize propofol is a very fast acting drugs and when given it knocks you out in seconds after you are injected with propofol.
Other medications found:
There were other medications found in his body. These drugs are Midazolam. Lidocaine, diazapam, nordiazepam, ephedrine. The benzodiazepenes given to Michael by Murray are listed as a contributing factor to Michael’s death.
There were no pills found in Michael’s stomach. Although there were found many bottles of other medications prescribed by Murray, Metzger, Klein, James and Nurse Lee, none of those meds were found in the body.
Addiction Indications:
There is nothing in the autopsy reports that support the claims of an addiction. The organs were fine and if there would have been any kind of addiction i’m sure they would have found things that would support addiction. In no way does this list of medication indicate that Michael was addicted to prescribtioned drugs.
There were punctures found at different places of Michael’s body. It’s not clear to me what the coronor is saying with this. It’s also not clear if those punctures were fresh or old.
Even though hairsamples were taken there is no report about what they found or did not find in those hairsamples.
Time of death:
The coronor does not mention the time of death in his report. He does mention that when he started to examen the body on june 25th at 18.11pm that there was no Rigor Mortis (the body going stiff) but there was Lividity (discolorations of the body because blood is sincking). Since neither the EMT’s nor the doctor’s at the hospital were able to get Michael’s heart started again this means his blood was been pumped through his body because he was on life support.
Imo this does not tell us anything of the actual time of death, it only tells us something about what time the machines were turned of and the blood stopped circulating Michael’s body. We still have only Conrad Murray’s story about a timeline he give Michael the propofol wich was according to Conrad Murray given at 10.40 am. Since the coronor report is clear about the cause of death i think it’s fair to assume that Michael’s real death was somewhere around that time at the latest.
I think i mentioned the most important things that were in the coronor’s report, without going to much into the horrible details that can bes een in that report. But there is something i want to mention, although this has nothing to do with the coronor’s report. I will call that my sidenote.
My sidenote:
There is a story circulating the internet right now about Conrad Murray leaving Michael alone for 4 hours without monitoring Michael, wich would indicate that Michael was gone in the early morning of june 25th. If this story would be true i really believe the coronor would have noticed at least that Rigor Mortis already had to set in. So imo this story is a fake story if i put this side to side to the coronor’s findings it doesn’t add up. I’m not saying that the person who is telling this story is lying, but that doesn’t mean she is not being lied to by her own sourses. I really think the person who is sharing this story on the internet acted and acts in good Faith and i have a feeling she is just being used to create another smokescreen.
I know this released report won’t stop the media or others to keep claiming addiction although there is nothing in that report to support those claims. Some people will claim the coronor tampered with this autopsy report and will even say the coronor was paid of by AEG or others to make the report like this. Well i hope that the people who claim things like this put a sock in it. As a matter of fact the people around Michael that were so bold to claim addiction in public should imo now appologize in public about those claims and for not believing Michael…You guys did him wrong…
I will put a link up but i do this with a warning…don’t read the full autopsy report if you have doubts that you’re up to it. For those who don’t want to or can’t bring themselfs to read it i will try to explain some things in the easiest way i can about this report. For those of you who want to read it here’s the link: Autopsy Report
General Health:
Michael’s general health seems to be as good as can be expected. We must not forget we are talking about a 50 year old man here. And it’s pretty common to read things like artrithes, enlarged prostate, some plaque build up in some of the arteries. The condition of the organs all support that he was in good health. Although they did find inflamation of the lungs this did not contribute to his death. His weight was withing normal range but on thow side of normal 136 pounds and is thin.
The coronor clearly mentions Vitiligo and signs of Vitiligo in the report. Although the coronor doesn’t mention Lupus directly, he does mention sign related to Lupus. Keep in mind that Vitiligo also is on of the signs of Lupus and the inflamed lungs can be a sign of that to. Lupus is not something you can diagnose just like that because it is a dissease that you only diagnose by connecting the dots the right way.
Cause of death:
We all know the cause of that was ruled Acute Propofol Intoxication and that the coronor ruled Michael’s death a homicide. The coronor explains in the autopsy report why he came to the conclusion that is was a homicide. The amount of propofol in Michael’s body and the place of where the iv was would have made it impossible for Michael to be able to inject the propofol himself. The amount of propofol was so high that he was gone within seconds. The report seems to suggests that the amount of propofol found was given by a bolus injection.
At Michael’s house there were multiple empty bottles of propofol found. The report is not clear about how many bottles that where. But if you look at the list of meds that where found there were 3 100ml vials of propofol and 8 20ml vails of propofol. None of the bottles of propofol had prescription direction, a patient’s name or a doctor’s name on it.
As can be expected the propofol was found in the intire body. People who think this is strange have to realize propofol is a very fast acting drugs and when given it knocks you out in seconds after you are injected with propofol.
Other medications found:
There were other medications found in his body. These drugs are Midazolam. Lidocaine, diazapam, nordiazepam, ephedrine. The benzodiazepenes given to Michael by Murray are listed as a contributing factor to Michael’s death.
There were no pills found in Michael’s stomach. Although there were found many bottles of other medications prescribed by Murray, Metzger, Klein, James and Nurse Lee, none of those meds were found in the body.
Addiction Indications:
There is nothing in the autopsy reports that support the claims of an addiction. The organs were fine and if there would have been any kind of addiction i’m sure they would have found things that would support addiction. In no way does this list of medication indicate that Michael was addicted to prescribtioned drugs.
There were punctures found at different places of Michael’s body. It’s not clear to me what the coronor is saying with this. It’s also not clear if those punctures were fresh or old.
Even though hairsamples were taken there is no report about what they found or did not find in those hairsamples.
Time of death:
The coronor does not mention the time of death in his report. He does mention that when he started to examen the body on june 25th at 18.11pm that there was no Rigor Mortis (the body going stiff) but there was Lividity (discolorations of the body because blood is sincking). Since neither the EMT’s nor the doctor’s at the hospital were able to get Michael’s heart started again this means his blood was been pumped through his body because he was on life support.
Imo this does not tell us anything of the actual time of death, it only tells us something about what time the machines were turned of and the blood stopped circulating Michael’s body. We still have only Conrad Murray’s story about a timeline he give Michael the propofol wich was according to Conrad Murray given at 10.40 am. Since the coronor report is clear about the cause of death i think it’s fair to assume that Michael’s real death was somewhere around that time at the latest.
I think i mentioned the most important things that were in the coronor’s report, without going to much into the horrible details that can bes een in that report. But there is something i want to mention, although this has nothing to do with the coronor’s report. I will call that my sidenote.
My sidenote:
There is a story circulating the internet right now about Conrad Murray leaving Michael alone for 4 hours without monitoring Michael, wich would indicate that Michael was gone in the early morning of june 25th. If this story would be true i really believe the coronor would have noticed at least that Rigor Mortis already had to set in. So imo this story is a fake story if i put this side to side to the coronor’s findings it doesn’t add up. I’m not saying that the person who is telling this story is lying, but that doesn’t mean she is not being lied to by her own sourses. I really think the person who is sharing this story on the internet acted and acts in good Faith and i have a feeling she is just being used to create another smokescreen.
Tuesday, February 9, 2010
Part Thirty - The Charges ar In
I need to step away from the things i was writing so far because of some developments in Michael’s Murder. Finally after more then seven months Conrad Murray has been charged. This after a week of speculation all over the net. It was almost like a ping-pong match..Yes today charges are gonna be filed and then at the time the charges were expected no charges came. This happend all between Februari 1st 2010 and Februari 5th 2010.
During this week of controverse fans started all kind of fan actions such as making phonecalls to the D.A office and LAPD, sending emails to the D.A office, creating profile pics for their facebook accounts to show the want to see justice done for Michael. And on top of that fans who could go to the courthouse on Monday februari 8th went to let their voices be heard there. The fans who were outside the courtroom had different signs, all ment to be asking for justice for Michael. Every fan in the whole World hoped they would see Conrad Murray handcuffed when he arrived. And when we could all watch and see Conrad Murray walk in without cuffs the anger and dissapointment built up inside all fans.
On Monday Februari 8th Conrad Murray was charged for Involantary Manslaughter (papers for the charge) and he had to come to a hearing at the LAX Courthouse. As expected Conrad Murray pleaded “Not Guilty” to those charges. The D.A requested a bail of 300,000 dollars, but in the end bail was set at 75,000 dollar. Three times the amount of what is normal for somebody who is charged with Involantary Manslaughter. Conrad Murray is not allowed to travel outside the U.S.A but is allowed to travel within country borders. Conrad Murray has to provide fingerprints and DNA samples to the D.A. There is a second hearing set for April 5th.
Also the medical board wanted to prevoke Conrad Murray’s medical licence for California and Texas. The Judge overruled the medical board by letting Conrad Murray be able to practice medicine. However the Judge did say that Conrad Murray was not allowed to posses, precribe o radminister anastethics. Personally i find this ruling strange since the report of the medical board cleare says they feel Conrad Murray is a threat to the public http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0208_medical_docs.pdf (page 3 line 24-26). The medical board will appeal to surpreme court to prevoke his Medical Licence again.
I have to admit at first i felt angry and dissapointment too. It just didn’t seem fair to charge Conrad Murray with just one thing and what even looks less fair is the fact he is charged with Involantary Manslaughter. But now i’ve slept for a few hours and i had time to think about it some more, things like why now after more than 7 months do they come up with only this. The more i think about it the more these charges sound to me as just the beginning of more to come toward Conrad Murray and maybe even others.
The thing is at this point they can’t charge Conrad Murray with any degree of Murder because they can’t proof the smoking gun was in his hands. So these charges are actually a good thing. This way the D.A and the LAPD don’t have to hand over all the evidence they got that could bring higher charges in the end, they only have to show the evidence regarding Involantary Manslaughter. Meanwhile Conrad Murray has to give fingerprint and DNA so the D.A can try to proof he had the smoking gun in his hand. This is just the kind of evidence i said in one of my earlier notes the D.A would need to link him as the person who give the lethal amount of propofol to Michael.
Yes they could have just gotten a court order for Conrad Murray to give fingerprints and DNA but by doing that they would have put de defence on the track of how they are looking into this case. The thing you don’t want in a case like this is to give the defence any chance to prepare themselfs months in advance. You want to keep them in the dark as long as possible. Now with coming up with these charges the court ruled Conrad Murray just has to provide the fingerprints and DNA so the D.A doesn’t have to build there case for a court order to get permission to get these. This way the D.A and LAPD get to protect everything else they are looking into.
So i guess we have to wait and see if the D.A will be able to link Conrad Murray to the lethal shot or not. If they can’t link him to that they won’t be able to raise charges to a higher level. So let’s say the worse thing that could happen is that they can’t link Conrad Murray to that shot and the DNA and fingerprints don’t match to the fingerprints and DNA they already found that would take this whole case to another level. That would mean that there would be others involved indeed.
Don’t get me wrong again i’m not saying Conrad Murray isn’t involved, because i’ve stated many times already that i feel Conrad Murray is playing his part in this very well and he is involved in this someway at some level. It is also no secret tha i’ve always believed others are involved here. And although now it looks like there isn’t gonna be justice done i really feel there is way more to come. If you are already in shock over what is happening now than i warn you to all brace yourselfs and eathother because my guts tell me there are things comming out in the near future that will totally rock and shock our World. It’s very important to not loose Faith rightnow, i know it’s hard not to loose it with everything going on but you all have to keep the Faith in Justice For Michael.
Two hours after this first hearing Conrad Murray made bail and was allowed to walk out of the court as a free but charged man. The strange thing about this is that nobody saw him leave. It’s almost like they used his lawyers coming outside as a decoy to get Conrad Murray out of the courthouse a safe way. Even though i really wanted him to face the fans while coming out i do think it was a good decicion to act this way. Because although the charges right now don’t look like they are gonna bring Michael any justice, if this Conrad Murray would get shot or harmed in any other way before or during any trial than there really would be no justice.
During this week of controverse fans started all kind of fan actions such as making phonecalls to the D.A office and LAPD, sending emails to the D.A office, creating profile pics for their facebook accounts to show the want to see justice done for Michael. And on top of that fans who could go to the courthouse on Monday februari 8th went to let their voices be heard there. The fans who were outside the courtroom had different signs, all ment to be asking for justice for Michael. Every fan in the whole World hoped they would see Conrad Murray handcuffed when he arrived. And when we could all watch and see Conrad Murray walk in without cuffs the anger and dissapointment built up inside all fans.
On Monday Februari 8th Conrad Murray was charged for Involantary Manslaughter (papers for the charge) and he had to come to a hearing at the LAX Courthouse. As expected Conrad Murray pleaded “Not Guilty” to those charges. The D.A requested a bail of 300,000 dollars, but in the end bail was set at 75,000 dollar. Three times the amount of what is normal for somebody who is charged with Involantary Manslaughter. Conrad Murray is not allowed to travel outside the U.S.A but is allowed to travel within country borders. Conrad Murray has to provide fingerprints and DNA samples to the D.A. There is a second hearing set for April 5th.
Also the medical board wanted to prevoke Conrad Murray’s medical licence for California and Texas. The Judge overruled the medical board by letting Conrad Murray be able to practice medicine. However the Judge did say that Conrad Murray was not allowed to posses, precribe o radminister anastethics. Personally i find this ruling strange since the report of the medical board cleare says they feel Conrad Murray is a threat to the public http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0208_medical_docs.pdf (page 3 line 24-26). The medical board will appeal to surpreme court to prevoke his Medical Licence again.
I have to admit at first i felt angry and dissapointment too. It just didn’t seem fair to charge Conrad Murray with just one thing and what even looks less fair is the fact he is charged with Involantary Manslaughter. But now i’ve slept for a few hours and i had time to think about it some more, things like why now after more than 7 months do they come up with only this. The more i think about it the more these charges sound to me as just the beginning of more to come toward Conrad Murray and maybe even others.
The thing is at this point they can’t charge Conrad Murray with any degree of Murder because they can’t proof the smoking gun was in his hands. So these charges are actually a good thing. This way the D.A and the LAPD don’t have to hand over all the evidence they got that could bring higher charges in the end, they only have to show the evidence regarding Involantary Manslaughter. Meanwhile Conrad Murray has to give fingerprint and DNA so the D.A can try to proof he had the smoking gun in his hand. This is just the kind of evidence i said in one of my earlier notes the D.A would need to link him as the person who give the lethal amount of propofol to Michael.
Yes they could have just gotten a court order for Conrad Murray to give fingerprints and DNA but by doing that they would have put de defence on the track of how they are looking into this case. The thing you don’t want in a case like this is to give the defence any chance to prepare themselfs months in advance. You want to keep them in the dark as long as possible. Now with coming up with these charges the court ruled Conrad Murray just has to provide the fingerprints and DNA so the D.A doesn’t have to build there case for a court order to get permission to get these. This way the D.A and LAPD get to protect everything else they are looking into.
So i guess we have to wait and see if the D.A will be able to link Conrad Murray to the lethal shot or not. If they can’t link him to that they won’t be able to raise charges to a higher level. So let’s say the worse thing that could happen is that they can’t link Conrad Murray to that shot and the DNA and fingerprints don’t match to the fingerprints and DNA they already found that would take this whole case to another level. That would mean that there would be others involved indeed.
Don’t get me wrong again i’m not saying Conrad Murray isn’t involved, because i’ve stated many times already that i feel Conrad Murray is playing his part in this very well and he is involved in this someway at some level. It is also no secret tha i’ve always believed others are involved here. And although now it looks like there isn’t gonna be justice done i really feel there is way more to come. If you are already in shock over what is happening now than i warn you to all brace yourselfs and eathother because my guts tell me there are things comming out in the near future that will totally rock and shock our World. It’s very important to not loose Faith rightnow, i know it’s hard not to loose it with everything going on but you all have to keep the Faith in Justice For Michael.
Two hours after this first hearing Conrad Murray made bail and was allowed to walk out of the court as a free but charged man. The strange thing about this is that nobody saw him leave. It’s almost like they used his lawyers coming outside as a decoy to get Conrad Murray out of the courthouse a safe way. Even though i really wanted him to face the fans while coming out i do think it was a good decicion to act this way. Because although the charges right now don’t look like they are gonna bring Michael any justice, if this Conrad Murray would get shot or harmed in any other way before or during any trial than there really would be no justice.
Friday, February 5, 2010
Part TwentyNine - Ten, ThirtyOne, Fifty or More?
Now i want to take you back to March 5th 2009, the day Michael announced his concerts in London. We all know that at first there were only ten dates released. To many people it was kind of odd that it got increased pretty soon after that. There are also people who claim that Michael only announced those ten shows. But the truth is that Michael never said during the pressconference that it would be only 10 shows. He only said that it would be his final show performances in London. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lo87SKox2s&feature=related
Here’s the transcript from what Michael said on March 5th 2009:
“I love you so much…thank you all…(responding to the audience who cheer…with This is it, this is it)…But i i i just wanna say that uhmm….. These will be my final show performances in London….this will be it..this is it…and when i say this is it it really means this is it….because off…I’ll be…I’ll be performing the songs the fans want to hear….this is it..and i mean this is really it..this is the final..this is the final curtain call…okay?..and uhhm…I’ll see you in Juli…and….I love you…I really do you have to know that. I love you so much…from the bottom of my heart..This is it and see you in July”.
There is nothing wrong or strange about anouncing a small amount of shows first and than increase them. This all has to do with ticketsales..Before anouncing the full package deal you always first anounce a small part to see how the ticketsales go. Expecially after an artist hasn’t been doing live performances for a long time. If tickets sale go well than you immidiatly release the dates of the other shows that were already planned. Having this said this doesn’t mean i think Michael was happy with the 50 shows in London. But as far as i know he did agree to do 31 shows there. So maybe it’s a good idea to take a look at the contract to see how many shows Michael agreed to do. http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/AEG%20contract.pdf
Itinerary of shows (page 1 and 2 part 3)
In this part we can read both parties agree to do their very best for the shows. They also talk about the terms about how many shows the first leg would be. The next thing i read is that as long as a leg is no longer than 10 weeks with no more than 3,5 shows a week and no more than one show a day, with a maximum of 31 shows for that leg and that these shows would all be held at the O2 in London it was not needed to have Michael’s permission for the show dates.
This part also states that the promoter and Michael still have to agree on the number of legs for the shows and how many shows he would do during the other legs that would be added. Also it mentiones that the minimum amount of shows for the first leg of the tour is 18 shows.
You can also read in this part of the contract that the promotor can ad more legs for the shows if they need that to recoup the advances. And that they have to show to the artist Financial models based on costs and earning for regarding the shows.
Submision of proposed Itineraries (page 6 part 5.1)
From time to time, promoter shall submit to artistico proposed Itineraries for each leg of a World Tour consisting of dates, venues and locations for shows in particular regions of the territory. In other words there was a World Tour planned for the “This Is It” shows and AEG would inform Michael about the dates, places and venues.
My opinion about these parts of the contract
While i was reading this i had to come to the conclusion that many people misunderstood the contract. People claimed Michael only singed up for 10 shows, and that is was pushed towards 50 shows overnight. Mentioning a first leg would indicate that there would be more legs for the “This Is It shows” and that Michael would have agreed to perform for a longer period of time. And as long as AEG didn’t do anything that would say Michael you need to do more than 3,5 shows a week or more that 31 shows during the first leg or the first leg would be longer Michael couldn’t object to this.
It also says Michael agreed on doing a “This Is It” world tour. That might sound strange to a lot of you because Michael mentioned so often that he didn’t want to tour again. But reading the contract and looking at the “This Is It” dvd it looks like Michael really wanted to do a full tour, not just the London shows. Also the dancers were contracted for two years. As far as i know they weren’t contracted on the number of shows. But since the contracts where for 2 years this is also an indication that there was indeed gonna be a World Tour. Although i haven’t seen any contract for the dancers i don’t think the contract was about them working for AEG like some people want to make us believe, it was about supporting Michael as dancers during all “This Is It” shows and also an obligation attached to show up at promotion events for the tour.
We also know that AEG would upfront the money for the tour, wich imo is just a normal and smart thing to do. That way Michael didn’t need to invest his own money wich i think was very smart. After all if a promoter has to invest in a show you bet your ass that they would work way harder and put more effort in things to make it all a succes. If the tour is a Financial succes the promoter will earn back everything they payed for in advance, and even more. This is nothing fishy, it’s only fair business and Michael knew that. And only a win win for both parties involved.
So my thought about these 50 shows is that although Michael agreed on doing multiple legs for “This Is It” that he wasn’t so much upset about doing 50 shows, but he was more upset by doing 50 shows in London. I think that Michael expected the World tour for “This Is It” to start after the first leg, he just didn’t want to be stuck on one place like this. Not for himself but for his fans, because he knew there would be fans that wouldn’t be able to make it to London and he wanted that as many fans as possible could see this show he had in stock for us. And i think that is also the reason why he rehired Frank Dileo again to make sure the World Tour would go on. And even though there might have been a disagreement between the involved parties about doing 50 shows in London, in no way do i think AEG tricked Michael into signing this contract.
Here’s the transcript from what Michael said on March 5th 2009:
“I love you so much…thank you all…(responding to the audience who cheer…with This is it, this is it)…But i i i just wanna say that uhmm….. These will be my final show performances in London….this will be it..this is it…and when i say this is it it really means this is it….because off…I’ll be…I’ll be performing the songs the fans want to hear….this is it..and i mean this is really it..this is the final..this is the final curtain call…okay?..and uhhm…I’ll see you in Juli…and….I love you…I really do you have to know that. I love you so much…from the bottom of my heart..This is it and see you in July”.
There is nothing wrong or strange about anouncing a small amount of shows first and than increase them. This all has to do with ticketsales..Before anouncing the full package deal you always first anounce a small part to see how the ticketsales go. Expecially after an artist hasn’t been doing live performances for a long time. If tickets sale go well than you immidiatly release the dates of the other shows that were already planned. Having this said this doesn’t mean i think Michael was happy with the 50 shows in London. But as far as i know he did agree to do 31 shows there. So maybe it’s a good idea to take a look at the contract to see how many shows Michael agreed to do. http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/AEG%20contract.pdf
Itinerary of shows (page 1 and 2 part 3)
In this part we can read both parties agree to do their very best for the shows. They also talk about the terms about how many shows the first leg would be. The next thing i read is that as long as a leg is no longer than 10 weeks with no more than 3,5 shows a week and no more than one show a day, with a maximum of 31 shows for that leg and that these shows would all be held at the O2 in London it was not needed to have Michael’s permission for the show dates.
This part also states that the promoter and Michael still have to agree on the number of legs for the shows and how many shows he would do during the other legs that would be added. Also it mentiones that the minimum amount of shows for the first leg of the tour is 18 shows.
You can also read in this part of the contract that the promotor can ad more legs for the shows if they need that to recoup the advances. And that they have to show to the artist Financial models based on costs and earning for regarding the shows.
Submision of proposed Itineraries (page 6 part 5.1)
From time to time, promoter shall submit to artistico proposed Itineraries for each leg of a World Tour consisting of dates, venues and locations for shows in particular regions of the territory. In other words there was a World Tour planned for the “This Is It” shows and AEG would inform Michael about the dates, places and venues.
My opinion about these parts of the contract
While i was reading this i had to come to the conclusion that many people misunderstood the contract. People claimed Michael only singed up for 10 shows, and that is was pushed towards 50 shows overnight. Mentioning a first leg would indicate that there would be more legs for the “This Is It shows” and that Michael would have agreed to perform for a longer period of time. And as long as AEG didn’t do anything that would say Michael you need to do more than 3,5 shows a week or more that 31 shows during the first leg or the first leg would be longer Michael couldn’t object to this.
It also says Michael agreed on doing a “This Is It” world tour. That might sound strange to a lot of you because Michael mentioned so often that he didn’t want to tour again. But reading the contract and looking at the “This Is It” dvd it looks like Michael really wanted to do a full tour, not just the London shows. Also the dancers were contracted for two years. As far as i know they weren’t contracted on the number of shows. But since the contracts where for 2 years this is also an indication that there was indeed gonna be a World Tour. Although i haven’t seen any contract for the dancers i don’t think the contract was about them working for AEG like some people want to make us believe, it was about supporting Michael as dancers during all “This Is It” shows and also an obligation attached to show up at promotion events for the tour.
We also know that AEG would upfront the money for the tour, wich imo is just a normal and smart thing to do. That way Michael didn’t need to invest his own money wich i think was very smart. After all if a promoter has to invest in a show you bet your ass that they would work way harder and put more effort in things to make it all a succes. If the tour is a Financial succes the promoter will earn back everything they payed for in advance, and even more. This is nothing fishy, it’s only fair business and Michael knew that. And only a win win for both parties involved.
So my thought about these 50 shows is that although Michael agreed on doing multiple legs for “This Is It” that he wasn’t so much upset about doing 50 shows, but he was more upset by doing 50 shows in London. I think that Michael expected the World tour for “This Is It” to start after the first leg, he just didn’t want to be stuck on one place like this. Not for himself but for his fans, because he knew there would be fans that wouldn’t be able to make it to London and he wanted that as many fans as possible could see this show he had in stock for us. And i think that is also the reason why he rehired Frank Dileo again to make sure the World Tour would go on. And even though there might have been a disagreement between the involved parties about doing 50 shows in London, in no way do i think AEG tricked Michael into signing this contract.
Thursday, February 4, 2010
Part TwentyEight - Setting the Stage for Murder
There are a lot things about the “This Is It” shows. After Michael was killed all kind of stories came out. Some people claim Michael didn’t want to do them others say he was exited and looked forward to doing the shows.But rumours about the shows all started when the shows where announced on march 5th 2009. Right from the start people started speculating about Michael not being able to do the shows. At the end those people where right he never made it to do the shows and that is so sad.
Now even though i just told you the rumours about it all started as soon as the shows were announced we all have to be honest here. I can still here a lot of people say that the time to prepare for these shows was to short. Anybody who knows anything about organising a concert or a tour knows that the announcements are just for ticketsales. The preperations begin way sooner than the announcements are made. Venues have to be booked almost a year before you can actually start and so does the work with stage designers etc. So before the shows where announced they already had a lot of important forwork done.
A lot of people think that rehearsels started to late and complain about the dancers not being picked any sooner than april. But they forget that the dancers Michael, Kenny and Travis choose to perform with Michael in the this is it shows are very driven people and fast learners. While they auditioned they didn’t only watch how they danced, it was also about how fast do they pick up new steps and if they could handle time presure etc. We also must not forget many of these young dancers were also huge Michael fans who know Michaels Music and Moves pretty well. So they would need way lesser time to get the routine than a dancer who has a total different style and knows nothing about Michael’s Moves and Music. The moment these dancers got picked they worked long hours during rehearsels and sorry to say this to the people who are sceptic but anybody who saw “This Is It” already can tell you that the dancers nailed it.
Than we alos have all these talks about Michael not wanting to do these shows, and that Michael was scared to say NO to AEG. I really feel that the people who say this are wrong about that. Michael was already asked by Randy Philips in 2007 to perform again and Michael told him back than he wasn’t ready yet. That tells me that he did have the guts to say NO when he wanted to say NO and i just don’t understand people who say Michael was to kind to tell people NO. Well yes Michael was kind i agree but he was no fool that couldn’t say No. There are different ways to say no, you can just say it or you can say it….and from what we know about Michael he would say it. With that i mean he would tell them No in a nice and polite way even thanking those for the offer and how kind it was of them to offer etc etc.
Now like i said before i don’t know the real reason for Michael to finally decide to do these shows and at this point it’s really not that important. However i do think there is a big misunderstanding about AEG pushing Michael to these shows. People keep assuming that it was EAG who asked Michael in 2008 again. To be totally honest i thought that too for a long long time, until last night. I was watching the ‘This Is It’ dvd last night and while i was watching the extra footage of the TII dvd i noticed something. Randy Philips was talking about that he asked Michael before and he turned them down in 2007. After that he mentioned that he got a call in early September 2008 from a man that represented Michael and that this person said to him that Michael was ready now to perform again. The only one person representing Michael in 2008 and that was Tohme Tohme.
I’ve already said before that people jumped the AEG bandwagon real fast. From the day Michael was killed that felt the wrong thing to do for me. People called me all kind of things when i told them they were fingerpointing to soon and all that just because they had their own reasons to believe that AEG was wrong for wanting to release the rehearsal footage. But finding out it was actually Tohme Tohme that contacted Randy Philips in 2008 and not the other way around tells me that the people who blame AEG for being involved were wrong. At least that is about the way AEG was involved.
Hearing Tohme Tohme was the contacting Randy Philips from AEG made my thoughts and feelings about it even stronger. It shows EAG was indeed involved in a way but not the way many people seem to think. I bet many people might not agree with what i’m about to say but i think what Tohme Tohme did here is staging an excuse for Michael’s Murder. I hope you will hear me out about this one.
Tohme Tohme took care of everything around Michael, his finances, his business and his personal life right? Remember that in the end of september Michael called his spiritual advisor to talk about his fears regarding Tohme Tohme. By that time contact between AEG was already made. Now we all know Michael had problems when he was preparing for tours and while touring, it was commen knowledge to us the fans, so i bet it was commen knowledge to other people surrounding Michael as well. Now for making sure Michael would perform again Tohme Tohme layed the bases for the rumours starting again. Knowing about Michael’s problems during touring nobody would be surprised if he wouldn’t make it to the shows, people would actually blame Michael first because he agreed to do these shows. After all in the eyes of many Michael was just a frail, sick man with having no say in anything.
I know a lot of you wonder about the connection between Tohme Tohme and Randy Philips that keeps popping up. To be honest i think for Tohme Tohme it would just be convinient that this connection is revieled. This connection is one of the basics why people point there fingers towards randy Philips and AEG. For Tohme Tohme it’s just a casuallity of war, to shift the attention and the blamegame to others instead of himself.
I’m not saying all this to hurt anybody, cause it breaks my heart saying these kind of things. But i asked this many times to the fans who followed Michael if it could be possible that they misundertood what they were seeing and hearing and if those things could have been looked at in a different way. All it got me was a lot of arguments and blame for being on AEG payroll. I’m not blaming these people for not looking at things a different way than i do, in fact i agree with them that justice needs to be done for Michael and that all people involved need to get caught. But AEG was imo not responsible for killing Michael, the link in all this is this strange figur Tohme Tohme. All AEG did was giving Michael the platform to perform again because as far as they knew that is what Michael wanted to do.
Now even though i just told you the rumours about it all started as soon as the shows were announced we all have to be honest here. I can still here a lot of people say that the time to prepare for these shows was to short. Anybody who knows anything about organising a concert or a tour knows that the announcements are just for ticketsales. The preperations begin way sooner than the announcements are made. Venues have to be booked almost a year before you can actually start and so does the work with stage designers etc. So before the shows where announced they already had a lot of important forwork done.
A lot of people think that rehearsels started to late and complain about the dancers not being picked any sooner than april. But they forget that the dancers Michael, Kenny and Travis choose to perform with Michael in the this is it shows are very driven people and fast learners. While they auditioned they didn’t only watch how they danced, it was also about how fast do they pick up new steps and if they could handle time presure etc. We also must not forget many of these young dancers were also huge Michael fans who know Michaels Music and Moves pretty well. So they would need way lesser time to get the routine than a dancer who has a total different style and knows nothing about Michael’s Moves and Music. The moment these dancers got picked they worked long hours during rehearsels and sorry to say this to the people who are sceptic but anybody who saw “This Is It” already can tell you that the dancers nailed it.
Than we alos have all these talks about Michael not wanting to do these shows, and that Michael was scared to say NO to AEG. I really feel that the people who say this are wrong about that. Michael was already asked by Randy Philips in 2007 to perform again and Michael told him back than he wasn’t ready yet. That tells me that he did have the guts to say NO when he wanted to say NO and i just don’t understand people who say Michael was to kind to tell people NO. Well yes Michael was kind i agree but he was no fool that couldn’t say No. There are different ways to say no, you can just say it or you can say it….and from what we know about Michael he would say it. With that i mean he would tell them No in a nice and polite way even thanking those for the offer and how kind it was of them to offer etc etc.
Now like i said before i don’t know the real reason for Michael to finally decide to do these shows and at this point it’s really not that important. However i do think there is a big misunderstanding about AEG pushing Michael to these shows. People keep assuming that it was EAG who asked Michael in 2008 again. To be totally honest i thought that too for a long long time, until last night. I was watching the ‘This Is It’ dvd last night and while i was watching the extra footage of the TII dvd i noticed something. Randy Philips was talking about that he asked Michael before and he turned them down in 2007. After that he mentioned that he got a call in early September 2008 from a man that represented Michael and that this person said to him that Michael was ready now to perform again. The only one person representing Michael in 2008 and that was Tohme Tohme.
I’ve already said before that people jumped the AEG bandwagon real fast. From the day Michael was killed that felt the wrong thing to do for me. People called me all kind of things when i told them they were fingerpointing to soon and all that just because they had their own reasons to believe that AEG was wrong for wanting to release the rehearsal footage. But finding out it was actually Tohme Tohme that contacted Randy Philips in 2008 and not the other way around tells me that the people who blame AEG for being involved were wrong. At least that is about the way AEG was involved.
Hearing Tohme Tohme was the contacting Randy Philips from AEG made my thoughts and feelings about it even stronger. It shows EAG was indeed involved in a way but not the way many people seem to think. I bet many people might not agree with what i’m about to say but i think what Tohme Tohme did here is staging an excuse for Michael’s Murder. I hope you will hear me out about this one.
Tohme Tohme took care of everything around Michael, his finances, his business and his personal life right? Remember that in the end of september Michael called his spiritual advisor to talk about his fears regarding Tohme Tohme. By that time contact between AEG was already made. Now we all know Michael had problems when he was preparing for tours and while touring, it was commen knowledge to us the fans, so i bet it was commen knowledge to other people surrounding Michael as well. Now for making sure Michael would perform again Tohme Tohme layed the bases for the rumours starting again. Knowing about Michael’s problems during touring nobody would be surprised if he wouldn’t make it to the shows, people would actually blame Michael first because he agreed to do these shows. After all in the eyes of many Michael was just a frail, sick man with having no say in anything.
I know a lot of you wonder about the connection between Tohme Tohme and Randy Philips that keeps popping up. To be honest i think for Tohme Tohme it would just be convinient that this connection is revieled. This connection is one of the basics why people point there fingers towards randy Philips and AEG. For Tohme Tohme it’s just a casuallity of war, to shift the attention and the blamegame to others instead of himself.
I’m not saying all this to hurt anybody, cause it breaks my heart saying these kind of things. But i asked this many times to the fans who followed Michael if it could be possible that they misundertood what they were seeing and hearing and if those things could have been looked at in a different way. All it got me was a lot of arguments and blame for being on AEG payroll. I’m not blaming these people for not looking at things a different way than i do, in fact i agree with them that justice needs to be done for Michael and that all people involved need to get caught. But AEG was imo not responsible for killing Michael, the link in all this is this strange figur Tohme Tohme. All AEG did was giving Michael the platform to perform again because as far as they knew that is what Michael wanted to do.
Wednesday, February 3, 2010
Part TwentySeven - Smart Business
There’s a lot of speculation going on about Michael’s finances. Most of them are about in how much debt Michael was before he died. They almost talk about this as if Michael is and was the only person that ever had debts. These days there is hardly any person walking on this earth without debts, but i guess that’s what you get with all the plastic money, it makes it so much easier for people to spent money they actually don’t have. The funny thing in Michael’s case is that his debts started to get bigger and bigger shortly after he died. It went from 200million dollars up to almost 500million dollars in no time. People even clamed he had no cash at all, and he needed to do the This Is It shows to generate new cash.
When Donald Trump came on Larry King Live to talk about Michael he said that Michael was really business savvy. His exact words were: “He was actually a very, very smart businessman.” That’s when i started to think more about the finances and Michael’s assets. In a way this part feels very much like i’m invading Michael’s privacy but to be able to tell if Michael was as brook as a lot of people claimed i felt the need to look somethings up myself instead of just believing Michael was broke.
Throughout his life a lot of people made fun and lot’s of nasty comments about Michael’s spending habbits. Michael’s favourite things to buy was art. Not only did he love art but he also saw buying art as an investment. We all know you pay a lot for good art, but we also know that it only incraces in value when time goes by. But there are also other story’s, people would just drive up prizes as soon as the name Michael Jackson would fall, i guess a lot of people were eager to get some of the money Michael had. Of course for regular people 1miljoen dollar sounds and is a whole lot of money. But i really think we need to see this in the right perspective. For Michael spending a million must be something like 1000$ is for us. I’m not saying he didn’t know the value of money but if you have let’s say 50.000.000$ than one million dollar is like pocket change.
Of course art was not the only way Michael spent his money. Michael is also known for his generosity for donating a lot of money for charity. Most of the charity he donated money to had to do with children who were underpriveledge, sick, poor etc. But he did more than just donate money there are cases know that he was hands on. Michael visited as many children’s hospitals and orpaniges as he did concerts. He brought gifts for the children there and when he saw more was needed he made sure they got it. Not many people realize that donating money on charity is part of doing smart business. Donating money to charity cuts your taxes a lot. So in a way donating to charity is also a way of saving money.
The best known and smartest businessdeal he ever mady is getting 50% ownership of Sony Corp. Music publishing devision. It all started when Michael bought the ATV catalogue in 1985 for 47,5million dollars. By buying the ATV catologue Michael made sure he had a steady stream of income. In 1995 Michael merged his Music catalog with Sony. Corp. Music publisching division. To finance this merge he sold half his ATV catalogue to Sony. This deal was the smartest move ever cause now Michael didn’t owe only half the ATV catalogue but also half of Sony Music. The last time Sony/ATV was valued, it was said to be worth $30 Billion. So that means Michael’s share was worth 15 billion.
This however does not mean he actually had 15 billion it is what Sony/ATV is worth. We don’t know how much Michael earned each year by being half owner of Sony Music and the ATV catalogue. But let’s say it he only earned 1% off that 15 billion a year that would mean he at least earned 150million dollars a year from this alone.
Michael has never never gone bankrupt even though he had debts. But to be honest smart business man always have debts. This is again because when you are rich and have debts the debts again lower your taxes. If you would just look up things he owned how much it all increased in value for instance Neverland wich he bought for 17 million dollars, in 2004 it was worth somewhere between 96 million dollars and 120 million dollars. Again this doesn’t mean he had this amount of money but it is what it’s worth and that goes for everything Michael owned. It almost seems like whatever he bought would increase in value the minute he bought it. Another thing smart business man don’t have is lot’s of cash. The reason why is taxes again, the more money you have the more taxes you have to pay. So any smart business person makes pretty sure that taxes don’t go running of with the money.
Even though he had debts he used that money he owed to credit cards as investment money. That is how smart business man work, the golden rule while you are investing is to not ever invest your own money in business, do it with borrowed money. That way when an investment turns out to have been a good deal and you need money you can easily sell it pay of the debt and still have earned a lot of money. These things i mentioned are only part of what he owned and that could make money for Michael just like that if he needed it. So there is no way that Michael could ever be broke.
This all doesn’t mean Michael never made a wrong decision when it comes down to doing business, like everybody who is doing business he must have made his share of mistakes as well. But the people who are saying he was naive in business i think they need to do some research and learn from Michael and the way he did business.
It’s been said that he needed to tour to pay of his debts but if you really look in to everything he owned you would find out he could have just sold something pay of the debt and still be a very very rich man. But that is not the choise he made, he choose to do the “This is it shows” for some reason and we might never find out the real reason why he choose to do it.
Some info regarding ATV catalogue and Sony Music:
http:// mjjrealrealm.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!A679A9B694DD1478!2869.entry
When Donald Trump came on Larry King Live to talk about Michael he said that Michael was really business savvy. His exact words were: “He was actually a very, very smart businessman.” That’s when i started to think more about the finances and Michael’s assets. In a way this part feels very much like i’m invading Michael’s privacy but to be able to tell if Michael was as brook as a lot of people claimed i felt the need to look somethings up myself instead of just believing Michael was broke.
Throughout his life a lot of people made fun and lot’s of nasty comments about Michael’s spending habbits. Michael’s favourite things to buy was art. Not only did he love art but he also saw buying art as an investment. We all know you pay a lot for good art, but we also know that it only incraces in value when time goes by. But there are also other story’s, people would just drive up prizes as soon as the name Michael Jackson would fall, i guess a lot of people were eager to get some of the money Michael had. Of course for regular people 1miljoen dollar sounds and is a whole lot of money. But i really think we need to see this in the right perspective. For Michael spending a million must be something like 1000$ is for us. I’m not saying he didn’t know the value of money but if you have let’s say 50.000.000$ than one million dollar is like pocket change.
Of course art was not the only way Michael spent his money. Michael is also known for his generosity for donating a lot of money for charity. Most of the charity he donated money to had to do with children who were underpriveledge, sick, poor etc. But he did more than just donate money there are cases know that he was hands on. Michael visited as many children’s hospitals and orpaniges as he did concerts. He brought gifts for the children there and when he saw more was needed he made sure they got it. Not many people realize that donating money on charity is part of doing smart business. Donating money to charity cuts your taxes a lot. So in a way donating to charity is also a way of saving money.
The best known and smartest businessdeal he ever mady is getting 50% ownership of Sony Corp. Music publishing devision. It all started when Michael bought the ATV catalogue in 1985 for 47,5million dollars. By buying the ATV catologue Michael made sure he had a steady stream of income. In 1995 Michael merged his Music catalog with Sony. Corp. Music publisching division. To finance this merge he sold half his ATV catalogue to Sony. This deal was the smartest move ever cause now Michael didn’t owe only half the ATV catalogue but also half of Sony Music. The last time Sony/ATV was valued, it was said to be worth $30 Billion. So that means Michael’s share was worth 15 billion.
This however does not mean he actually had 15 billion it is what Sony/ATV is worth. We don’t know how much Michael earned each year by being half owner of Sony Music and the ATV catalogue. But let’s say it he only earned 1% off that 15 billion a year that would mean he at least earned 150million dollars a year from this alone.
Michael has never never gone bankrupt even though he had debts. But to be honest smart business man always have debts. This is again because when you are rich and have debts the debts again lower your taxes. If you would just look up things he owned how much it all increased in value for instance Neverland wich he bought for 17 million dollars, in 2004 it was worth somewhere between 96 million dollars and 120 million dollars. Again this doesn’t mean he had this amount of money but it is what it’s worth and that goes for everything Michael owned. It almost seems like whatever he bought would increase in value the minute he bought it. Another thing smart business man don’t have is lot’s of cash. The reason why is taxes again, the more money you have the more taxes you have to pay. So any smart business person makes pretty sure that taxes don’t go running of with the money.
Even though he had debts he used that money he owed to credit cards as investment money. That is how smart business man work, the golden rule while you are investing is to not ever invest your own money in business, do it with borrowed money. That way when an investment turns out to have been a good deal and you need money you can easily sell it pay of the debt and still have earned a lot of money. These things i mentioned are only part of what he owned and that could make money for Michael just like that if he needed it. So there is no way that Michael could ever be broke.
This all doesn’t mean Michael never made a wrong decision when it comes down to doing business, like everybody who is doing business he must have made his share of mistakes as well. But the people who are saying he was naive in business i think they need to do some research and learn from Michael and the way he did business.
It’s been said that he needed to tour to pay of his debts but if you really look in to everything he owned you would find out he could have just sold something pay of the debt and still be a very very rich man. But that is not the choise he made, he choose to do the “This is it shows” for some reason and we might never find out the real reason why he choose to do it.
Some info regarding ATV catalogue and Sony Music:
http:// mjjrealrealm.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!A679A9B694DD1478!2869.entry
Part TwentySix - Only Human
A lot of people started fingerpointing at AEG right away when Michael was killed. A lot of it had to do wiht eyewitness reports some fans gave and the way Karen Faye responded at her facebook. Many people feel that if Michael was in bad shape indeed AEG should have pulled the plug and got Michael help. In a way i have to agree that if they felt that Michael couldn’t make the shows because of health issues they should have done that but for me that doesn’t go only for AEG, it would go for other people surrounding Michael at that time too. Because the truth is the people who say he was in such bad shape did very little themselfs because they were more afraid to loose their job and the money they got doing their job than that they worried about Michael. It may sound harsh that i say this but that’s just the way it feels for me, because you can’t blame one party who was there for doing nothing when others did just the same.
We al remember that spoonfeeding stories started to come out very quick, the same way as the stories that Michael was always cold and wrapped up in blankets. I think it’s very important that everybody knows that the spoonfeeding stories came directly from Karen Faye facebook. I’m not saying this to bash her but in just matter of days the comments Karen Faye made on her own facebook about this matter were litterly taken over by some tabs. They even mention her and her facebook as the sourse from where they got their information. The strange thing about this is that KF warned fans a few days before she made these commets that the tabs were watching her facebook. From footage wich got leaked on the internet from the TII dvd we can see clearly that Michael is grabbing something to eat. So i have a hard time believing the spoonfeeding story to be true. So for this alone i’m gonna put my two cents inhere. If she knew tabz were lurking on her facebook than why wouldn’t she be more carefull with things she would say about Michael. After all she should know as no other person how the tabz would pick up on a story like that when it comes down to Michael.
Of course it’s no news to the fans that Michael had trouble eating in the past, expecially when he was rehearsing or on tour the trouble eating got even worse. Michael said so himself in the past that he was going through hell touring and that he would have problems eating and sleeping during a tour. I don’t know how it works for others but i myself can get so caught up in what i’m doing that i easily forget to eat. Hense it can even go sof ar that others have to remind me to eat and put a mail right in front of my nose to make sure i eat it. From the stories i hear it was like that for Michael too during the This Is It rehearsels. Don’t misunderstand me i’m not the one saying it works like that for Michael, but that’s what Randy Phillips said about it. Bothe Karen and Randy mention that Kenny Ortega is the one helping Michael to eat. The differences between the stories is that one is saying Kenny Ortega used to cut Michael’s food and the other one is saying Kenny Ortega was spoonfeeding Michael.
As i mentioned a few times already i totally agree that Michael looked skinny. And even Randy Phillips has stated he had some worries about Michael’s weight as well. But he also stated that Michael asured him that he was fine and at his fighting weight. Reports about Michael eating just one meal a day turned out to be false too. At least that is if the chef is telling the truth about Michael’s eating habbits. According to her CM used to come down in the morning to get juice/breakfast for Michael, and that Michael used to have lunch with his kids. She also said she prepared meals for Michael to take with him during rehaersels. A lot of people question Randy Phillips and Kenny Ortega’s actions when it comes down to Michael and eating. But we have to ask ourself in real honesty here if they could have done more after all you can’t just force people to eat. Forcing people to eat who have trouble eating no matter the reasons for that would just reach the opposite. The way i feel about this is that they tried to make eating as easy as possible for Michael by reminding him to eat and even cutting his food. So this way it would be very clear to Michael he really should sit down and eat something. This is in now way ignoring the eating problem, but to help out the best way you can at that moment.
Now i want to take you to the stories of Michael being coverd in blankets between rehearsels and after rehearsels. There are two things here we should keep in mind. The first thing is Michael was rehearsing and although he didn’t give 100% during rehearsels you have to keep yourself warm in between dances and after rehearsing. If you don’t keep yourself warm your muscles can react in a very bad way to that. Once more i’m gonna compare this with an athleet, after a runner is done running he or she covers the body op to protect the muscles, now why wouldn’t a dancer like Michael do the same? He wasn’t some kind of super Human who would be safe from injuries if he didn’t take care of his body real well.
The other thing we have to keep in mind is that Michael always complaind of being cold. This can again have all kind of reasons. If you look how skinny Michael looked, with hardly any bodyfat that could be an easy explenation for it. It’s pretty common for people with little fat to no bodyfat that they feel cold very often. So what kind of things can you do when a person complains he or she is cold? Well you could put a blanket around that person so he or she would feel warmer again, or you could put the heater up. Again nothing really strange when you look at it like this is it. You would have to admit that he reacts like any other person again, just like he was human.
Again the question rices did they do enough? And to be honest i think they all did the best they knew how. Randy Phillips, Kenny Ortega and others involved could only do so much. If Michael did indeed tell others that he was ok and that there was no need to worrie there wasn’t much anybody could have done. So far the reports we’ve heard don’t indicate that Michael had physicall trouble that contributed to his death. Let me make very clear that i'm not saying these reports are true, we would have to wait until the day there is an official statement or release made about it. But if these leaked reports turn out to be true than i hope the people who were telling stories that weren’t true will be so brave to come out and admit they were wrong. But from what i’ve heard so far i don’t think these people will ever do such a thing. They have already said that they wouldn’t trust a report saying Michael was in good health to be true.
I know that i repeat very often in this note that it looks like Michael is human and i do that for a very good reason. His name might be about fame and superstardom but the bottom line is Michael was human just like you and me and there is no reason to believe that if there is something wrong with him that his body would have reacted differenly than our body’s. And we must never forget that Michael was only human.
Some links about spoonfeeding and cutting meals:
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/frail-mj-needed-to-be-spoonfed-meals/503000/
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/frail-mj-needed-to-be-spoonfed-meals/503000/
http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/07/05/michael-jackson-survived-on-one-vegetarian-meal-per-day-during-rehearsals/
We al remember that spoonfeeding stories started to come out very quick, the same way as the stories that Michael was always cold and wrapped up in blankets. I think it’s very important that everybody knows that the spoonfeeding stories came directly from Karen Faye facebook. I’m not saying this to bash her but in just matter of days the comments Karen Faye made on her own facebook about this matter were litterly taken over by some tabs. They even mention her and her facebook as the sourse from where they got their information. The strange thing about this is that KF warned fans a few days before she made these commets that the tabs were watching her facebook. From footage wich got leaked on the internet from the TII dvd we can see clearly that Michael is grabbing something to eat. So i have a hard time believing the spoonfeeding story to be true. So for this alone i’m gonna put my two cents inhere. If she knew tabz were lurking on her facebook than why wouldn’t she be more carefull with things she would say about Michael. After all she should know as no other person how the tabz would pick up on a story like that when it comes down to Michael.
Of course it’s no news to the fans that Michael had trouble eating in the past, expecially when he was rehearsing or on tour the trouble eating got even worse. Michael said so himself in the past that he was going through hell touring and that he would have problems eating and sleeping during a tour. I don’t know how it works for others but i myself can get so caught up in what i’m doing that i easily forget to eat. Hense it can even go sof ar that others have to remind me to eat and put a mail right in front of my nose to make sure i eat it. From the stories i hear it was like that for Michael too during the This Is It rehearsels. Don’t misunderstand me i’m not the one saying it works like that for Michael, but that’s what Randy Phillips said about it. Bothe Karen and Randy mention that Kenny Ortega is the one helping Michael to eat. The differences between the stories is that one is saying Kenny Ortega used to cut Michael’s food and the other one is saying Kenny Ortega was spoonfeeding Michael.
As i mentioned a few times already i totally agree that Michael looked skinny. And even Randy Phillips has stated he had some worries about Michael’s weight as well. But he also stated that Michael asured him that he was fine and at his fighting weight. Reports about Michael eating just one meal a day turned out to be false too. At least that is if the chef is telling the truth about Michael’s eating habbits. According to her CM used to come down in the morning to get juice/breakfast for Michael, and that Michael used to have lunch with his kids. She also said she prepared meals for Michael to take with him during rehaersels. A lot of people question Randy Phillips and Kenny Ortega’s actions when it comes down to Michael and eating. But we have to ask ourself in real honesty here if they could have done more after all you can’t just force people to eat. Forcing people to eat who have trouble eating no matter the reasons for that would just reach the opposite. The way i feel about this is that they tried to make eating as easy as possible for Michael by reminding him to eat and even cutting his food. So this way it would be very clear to Michael he really should sit down and eat something. This is in now way ignoring the eating problem, but to help out the best way you can at that moment.
Now i want to take you to the stories of Michael being coverd in blankets between rehearsels and after rehearsels. There are two things here we should keep in mind. The first thing is Michael was rehearsing and although he didn’t give 100% during rehearsels you have to keep yourself warm in between dances and after rehearsing. If you don’t keep yourself warm your muscles can react in a very bad way to that. Once more i’m gonna compare this with an athleet, after a runner is done running he or she covers the body op to protect the muscles, now why wouldn’t a dancer like Michael do the same? He wasn’t some kind of super Human who would be safe from injuries if he didn’t take care of his body real well.
The other thing we have to keep in mind is that Michael always complaind of being cold. This can again have all kind of reasons. If you look how skinny Michael looked, with hardly any bodyfat that could be an easy explenation for it. It’s pretty common for people with little fat to no bodyfat that they feel cold very often. So what kind of things can you do when a person complains he or she is cold? Well you could put a blanket around that person so he or she would feel warmer again, or you could put the heater up. Again nothing really strange when you look at it like this is it. You would have to admit that he reacts like any other person again, just like he was human.
Again the question rices did they do enough? And to be honest i think they all did the best they knew how. Randy Phillips, Kenny Ortega and others involved could only do so much. If Michael did indeed tell others that he was ok and that there was no need to worrie there wasn’t much anybody could have done. So far the reports we’ve heard don’t indicate that Michael had physicall trouble that contributed to his death. Let me make very clear that i'm not saying these reports are true, we would have to wait until the day there is an official statement or release made about it. But if these leaked reports turn out to be true than i hope the people who were telling stories that weren’t true will be so brave to come out and admit they were wrong. But from what i’ve heard so far i don’t think these people will ever do such a thing. They have already said that they wouldn’t trust a report saying Michael was in good health to be true.
I know that i repeat very often in this note that it looks like Michael is human and i do that for a very good reason. His name might be about fame and superstardom but the bottom line is Michael was human just like you and me and there is no reason to believe that if there is something wrong with him that his body would have reacted differenly than our body’s. And we must never forget that Michael was only human.
Some links about spoonfeeding and cutting meals:
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/frail-mj-needed-to-be-spoonfed-meals/503000/
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/frail-mj-needed-to-be-spoonfed-meals/503000/
http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/07/05/michael-jackson-survived-on-one-vegetarian-meal-per-day-during-rehearsals/
Part TwentyFive - Inverventions
There are a lot of reports out there about the family wanted to do interventions. Even in the months prior to Michael’s death. It’s pretty hard to figure out what kind of interventions the family is talking about and when they were planned exactly. I’m not looking for a way to bash the family but the thing that is bothering me about this is that the family at the same time say they were kept away from Michael.
Don’t get me wrong i’m not denying Michael had a problem way back in 1993 with medications. After all he did admit himself he had a problem and needed to take care of himself. It was in this case that his friend Liz Taylor made sure he went to a rehab centre in London. Before Michael went to the rehab centre he was at sir Elton John’s house. We don’t know how bad the problem was in those days, i mean was it already realy an addiction or did he and Liz realise if he kept on taking what the doctors prescribed him it could turn into an addiction. Either way you look at it he was able to admit he had a problem back than and even went to rehab for that. It tels me he didn’t just run and hide from his problems, and het ook pretty good care of himself. Of course maybe he couldn’t have done this without his friend Liz helping him, but he sureley couldn’t have don it if he didn’t realize he had a problem and needed help. After all the first step to get help for any problem is admitting you have a problem.
Now if you try and go find about the timeline when some of the Jackson family members where planning interventions it started already in december 2005. And it even get’s more strange when you know Michael was in Bahrein at that time. Another thing that has been said is they tried to intervine in 2007 by going into Neverland and force Michael to get help. Now just wait a minute, didn’t Michael say after the trail in 2005 he never wanted to live at Neverland Ranch anymore? After all that happend he said in his own words “it isn’t a home anymore it’s just a house now”.
The strangest thing of all that although a lot of claim some of the family members they were planning these interventions and suspected addiction none of them ever saw Michael take any meds. They didn’t even see him take any painkillers. Even his own brother Tito who was one of the family members that wanted to intervine said: “I never saw him on drugs. Not once.”
If it is true that the family even wanted to intervine shortly before Michael got killed and they really felt Michael wouldn’t be able to do the “This is it”shows than how is it possible that this same family wanted Michael to perform with his brothers again. Doesn’t that sound strange? I mean if he would really have a problem as they claim and he wasn’t fit to do his own shows he sure as hell wasn’t fit enough to do a show with his brothers either.
This all makes me doubt the real reason that some family members wanted to intervine. In no way am i trying to bash the family with the things i’m about to say. After all i don’t know them and have never been able to ask them my questions. What i’m gonna say are once again just my thoughts and feelings about all this. But couldn’t these interventions have been for a whole different reason than an addiction?
As i already said in part one of my notes i think the ATV and money is just what people want us to think Michael was killed for and to me it all feels it has to do with power and controle. Somehow it feels to me that Michael’s own fears are now used against him. I really hope you will hear me out with this one because what is in my head isn’t a pretty sight at all.
I hope you all remember what i said about how Michael’s family where talking about Michael using aliases to get prescriptions. I have a feeling that there were people giving this kind of information to the family and i really think to make the family believe this it took more than one person to tell them these things. I also told you the addiction manny people are talking about looks more like a big smoke screen than anything else. So if what i say is true it means that by letting the family pull an intervention somebody would get total control about Michael. These addiction stories were sold in such a good way to Michael’s own family that in no way they would ever believe what Michael would say about it, no matter how much he told them he didn’t have a problem with meds they somehow put him in a hornets nest with no way out for him.
Now i want you all to imagne what could have happend if an intervention really happend. That way somebody would have total control. Not only about total contole about the private Michael, but also total contole about his children, his money and all his other assets including the ATV cataloge. If a man like Michael who could and did do a lot of good, than imagne what could happen if these things would end up in the wrong hands.I want to make it very clear that i don’t think that his family are the once that wanted to have controle like this, but i’m sure somebody else wanted that kind of power and controle. The family is just another tool that the people who wanted the power and controle used.
A lot of people jumped the EAG and Sony bandwagon right away and don’t seem to want to look beyond that. Or maybe they want to look further and do look further but are to scared to speak their minds.Many people who claim to be close to Michael and the Jackson family are saying they know what really happened to Michael. These people keep feeding us breadcrums and keep saying that the truth is to horrible to believe and to hard to take for us his fans. But really i ask all of you what could be worse than everything we imagne. Wouldn’t the truth be a thing we all need to know so that we are able to get some kind of closure? Because not knowing what really happened keeps us guessing, it keeps us in the dark. A darkness that is more scary in my opinion than the truth, no matter what that truth is.
Don’t get me wrong i’m not denying Michael had a problem way back in 1993 with medications. After all he did admit himself he had a problem and needed to take care of himself. It was in this case that his friend Liz Taylor made sure he went to a rehab centre in London. Before Michael went to the rehab centre he was at sir Elton John’s house. We don’t know how bad the problem was in those days, i mean was it already realy an addiction or did he and Liz realise if he kept on taking what the doctors prescribed him it could turn into an addiction. Either way you look at it he was able to admit he had a problem back than and even went to rehab for that. It tels me he didn’t just run and hide from his problems, and het ook pretty good care of himself. Of course maybe he couldn’t have done this without his friend Liz helping him, but he sureley couldn’t have don it if he didn’t realize he had a problem and needed help. After all the first step to get help for any problem is admitting you have a problem.
Now if you try and go find about the timeline when some of the Jackson family members where planning interventions it started already in december 2005. And it even get’s more strange when you know Michael was in Bahrein at that time. Another thing that has been said is they tried to intervine in 2007 by going into Neverland and force Michael to get help. Now just wait a minute, didn’t Michael say after the trail in 2005 he never wanted to live at Neverland Ranch anymore? After all that happend he said in his own words “it isn’t a home anymore it’s just a house now”.
The strangest thing of all that although a lot of claim some of the family members they were planning these interventions and suspected addiction none of them ever saw Michael take any meds. They didn’t even see him take any painkillers. Even his own brother Tito who was one of the family members that wanted to intervine said: “I never saw him on drugs. Not once.”
If it is true that the family even wanted to intervine shortly before Michael got killed and they really felt Michael wouldn’t be able to do the “This is it”shows than how is it possible that this same family wanted Michael to perform with his brothers again. Doesn’t that sound strange? I mean if he would really have a problem as they claim and he wasn’t fit to do his own shows he sure as hell wasn’t fit enough to do a show with his brothers either.
This all makes me doubt the real reason that some family members wanted to intervine. In no way am i trying to bash the family with the things i’m about to say. After all i don’t know them and have never been able to ask them my questions. What i’m gonna say are once again just my thoughts and feelings about all this. But couldn’t these interventions have been for a whole different reason than an addiction?
As i already said in part one of my notes i think the ATV and money is just what people want us to think Michael was killed for and to me it all feels it has to do with power and controle. Somehow it feels to me that Michael’s own fears are now used against him. I really hope you will hear me out with this one because what is in my head isn’t a pretty sight at all.
I hope you all remember what i said about how Michael’s family where talking about Michael using aliases to get prescriptions. I have a feeling that there were people giving this kind of information to the family and i really think to make the family believe this it took more than one person to tell them these things. I also told you the addiction manny people are talking about looks more like a big smoke screen than anything else. So if what i say is true it means that by letting the family pull an intervention somebody would get total control about Michael. These addiction stories were sold in such a good way to Michael’s own family that in no way they would ever believe what Michael would say about it, no matter how much he told them he didn’t have a problem with meds they somehow put him in a hornets nest with no way out for him.
Now i want you all to imagne what could have happend if an intervention really happend. That way somebody would have total control. Not only about total contole about the private Michael, but also total contole about his children, his money and all his other assets including the ATV cataloge. If a man like Michael who could and did do a lot of good, than imagne what could happen if these things would end up in the wrong hands.I want to make it very clear that i don’t think that his family are the once that wanted to have controle like this, but i’m sure somebody else wanted that kind of power and controle. The family is just another tool that the people who wanted the power and controle used.
A lot of people jumped the EAG and Sony bandwagon right away and don’t seem to want to look beyond that. Or maybe they want to look further and do look further but are to scared to speak their minds.Many people who claim to be close to Michael and the Jackson family are saying they know what really happened to Michael. These people keep feeding us breadcrums and keep saying that the truth is to horrible to believe and to hard to take for us his fans. But really i ask all of you what could be worse than everything we imagne. Wouldn’t the truth be a thing we all need to know so that we are able to get some kind of closure? Because not knowing what really happened keeps us guessing, it keeps us in the dark. A darkness that is more scary in my opinion than the truth, no matter what that truth is.
Part TwentyFour - Michael's Health
Besides the stories about Michael being an addict, there is also a lot of talk about his general health. Sometimes i get the impression that people think that Michael was some kind ofsuperhuman who was unable to get ill or injured. Like he has no right to take a painkiller when his body hurts one way or another. Instead of that they forget about some things and Judge him whenever he was on painmedication, even calling him an addict for doing so. Well since we all take painkillers when we are in pain that would make us all addicts too. Even when we only take them once a year, we are all addicts.
I’m in no way gonna deny Michael was skinny, because he was skinny. But looking skinny doesn’t tell you anything about a mans weight or his health. What to us might seem as unhealthy, doesn’t mean a person is unhealthy. A lot of people seem to forget that we all age differently and the hell Michael went through on 2005. These things can change somebody’s looks dramaticly. We have to realize that none of us have put Michael on a scale while he was alive and took pictures of that. If you all want to go by speculations, comparing pictures with 12 years in between and listen to so called friends saying he was just 106pounds than be my guest. Until the coronor comes out and tells us his weight i’m not gonna Judge about his weight.
We’ve all heared that there where two autopsy reports leaked. The first one was denied very fast. The second one wasn’t denied at all, as a matter of fact they all kept silent about it exept for the newspapers that claimed Michael was healthy. I’m not gonna take what is all written about that as the gospel, because to be able to do that we would have to see that report ourselfs. But i can tell you that the newspapers were twisting words here again. If you take a look at what this person who saw this report really said he didn’t say Michael was healthy, he said his overall health was fine at the time of his death. This only means that there wasn’t anything physicly wrong that could have caused Michael to die.
There are a lot of people saying now oooooo than he didn’t have Lupus or if he had it he only had it in a mild form. Lett me try to explain a bit about Lupus, first of all there is no mild form of Lupus, you either have it or you don’t. Lupus is a chronic, autoimmune disease that can damage any part of the body (skin, joints, and/or organs inside the body). Chronic means that the signs and symptoms tend to last longer than six weeks and often for many years. Having Lupus doesn’t mean you have these infections all of the time. It flares up wich means you have times you feel sick and symptoms get worse, but you also have times that it is in remission during that a person can even have no sign of infection and feel “healthy”.
I can already hear you ask why didn’t the report mention Lupus than? That’s also easy to explain, a coronor is not there to diagnose an illness, he is there to look if there is anything in the body that caused that person to die. And at the time of his death apperently the Lupus was in remesion. That doesn’t mean that the coronor didn’t find anything that might be a sign for Lupus. Keep in mind that the reports mention “inflamed lungs” and discolerations of the skin. Both of them are signs for Lupus.
Lupus is a genetical disorder, this doesn’t have to mean if you are a carier having that gene you will develop Lupus, because to devellop Lupus that also has to do with your enviroment. Things like high emotional stress, an injury even a simple thing as a cold can trigger Lupus. There are cirtain ethnic groups such as African, Asian, Hispanic/Latino, Native American and Native Hawaiian people that have a greater risk of developing lupus
.
But than what about the vitiligo? Even though vitiligo caused these discolorations, vitiligo itself can also be a sign for Lupus. This doesn’t mean every person that has vitiligo also has Lupus, and this also doesn’t mean people who have Lupus have to have vitiligo. The thing these two deseases have in common is that they both are autoimmune disease and both are inriversable. This means that the damage that is caused by these diseases is there for the rest of your life.
What i’m about to say is only speculation about how i think they found out Michael had Lupus, i don’t know that it did happen like this for sure because i don’t have his medical records. But what i think is that when Michael burned his scalp that that triggerd the Lupus. But before they found out he first got the discoloration of his skin wich was diagnosed as Vitiligo, wich was in fact just another sign for Lupus. Just like his lungproblems he had all the time. Because doctors work badly together and the signs of Lupus are often treated as separate diseases it took doctors a long time to put 1 and 1 together as being in fact 2.
So do knowing this about Lupus do i believe he was “healthy” around the time of his death, i can answer that from my point of view with a yes. Because as i explained i think they and also others only looked to the word healthy and didn’t bother to read further than just the headline.And if people are gonna say one more time that Michael had nothing or so severe that could explain why he was using painmedication or other medication at times, i'm gonna scream real loud to go educate themselfs, after all it was Michael himself that said education was the key.
If you want to try find out more about Lupus and how it is treated i can recomend all of you to look at the website of the “Lupus Foundation of America” www.lupus.org
I’m in no way gonna deny Michael was skinny, because he was skinny. But looking skinny doesn’t tell you anything about a mans weight or his health. What to us might seem as unhealthy, doesn’t mean a person is unhealthy. A lot of people seem to forget that we all age differently and the hell Michael went through on 2005. These things can change somebody’s looks dramaticly. We have to realize that none of us have put Michael on a scale while he was alive and took pictures of that. If you all want to go by speculations, comparing pictures with 12 years in between and listen to so called friends saying he was just 106pounds than be my guest. Until the coronor comes out and tells us his weight i’m not gonna Judge about his weight.
We’ve all heared that there where two autopsy reports leaked. The first one was denied very fast. The second one wasn’t denied at all, as a matter of fact they all kept silent about it exept for the newspapers that claimed Michael was healthy. I’m not gonna take what is all written about that as the gospel, because to be able to do that we would have to see that report ourselfs. But i can tell you that the newspapers were twisting words here again. If you take a look at what this person who saw this report really said he didn’t say Michael was healthy, he said his overall health was fine at the time of his death. This only means that there wasn’t anything physicly wrong that could have caused Michael to die.
There are a lot of people saying now oooooo than he didn’t have Lupus or if he had it he only had it in a mild form. Lett me try to explain a bit about Lupus, first of all there is no mild form of Lupus, you either have it or you don’t. Lupus is a chronic, autoimmune disease that can damage any part of the body (skin, joints, and/or organs inside the body). Chronic means that the signs and symptoms tend to last longer than six weeks and often for many years. Having Lupus doesn’t mean you have these infections all of the time. It flares up wich means you have times you feel sick and symptoms get worse, but you also have times that it is in remission during that a person can even have no sign of infection and feel “healthy”.
I can already hear you ask why didn’t the report mention Lupus than? That’s also easy to explain, a coronor is not there to diagnose an illness, he is there to look if there is anything in the body that caused that person to die. And at the time of his death apperently the Lupus was in remesion. That doesn’t mean that the coronor didn’t find anything that might be a sign for Lupus. Keep in mind that the reports mention “inflamed lungs” and discolerations of the skin. Both of them are signs for Lupus.
Lupus is a genetical disorder, this doesn’t have to mean if you are a carier having that gene you will develop Lupus, because to devellop Lupus that also has to do with your enviroment. Things like high emotional stress, an injury even a simple thing as a cold can trigger Lupus. There are cirtain ethnic groups such as African, Asian, Hispanic/Latino, Native American and Native Hawaiian people that have a greater risk of developing lupus
.
But than what about the vitiligo? Even though vitiligo caused these discolorations, vitiligo itself can also be a sign for Lupus. This doesn’t mean every person that has vitiligo also has Lupus, and this also doesn’t mean people who have Lupus have to have vitiligo. The thing these two deseases have in common is that they both are autoimmune disease and both are inriversable. This means that the damage that is caused by these diseases is there for the rest of your life.
What i’m about to say is only speculation about how i think they found out Michael had Lupus, i don’t know that it did happen like this for sure because i don’t have his medical records. But what i think is that when Michael burned his scalp that that triggerd the Lupus. But before they found out he first got the discoloration of his skin wich was diagnosed as Vitiligo, wich was in fact just another sign for Lupus. Just like his lungproblems he had all the time. Because doctors work badly together and the signs of Lupus are often treated as separate diseases it took doctors a long time to put 1 and 1 together as being in fact 2.
So do knowing this about Lupus do i believe he was “healthy” around the time of his death, i can answer that from my point of view with a yes. Because as i explained i think they and also others only looked to the word healthy and didn’t bother to read further than just the headline.And if people are gonna say one more time that Michael had nothing or so severe that could explain why he was using painmedication or other medication at times, i'm gonna scream real loud to go educate themselfs, after all it was Michael himself that said education was the key.
If you want to try find out more about Lupus and how it is treated i can recomend all of you to look at the website of the “Lupus Foundation of America” www.lupus.org
Part TwentyThree - The Aliases
Now when you think about what i wrote in the last part that the LAPD who found those meds also found that that none of the items were labeled as prescribed to any patiënt. That made me scratch the back of my head once more. Because if there weren’t any names on that one than how is it possible that people keep saying that Michael used aliases to get prescription drugs. After none of the items they found in the house had names on it.
You all must have heared about the news reports that the media claimed that Michael used the chef’s name to get drugs. The chef herself she didn’t know anything about it and seemed very shocked when this story brooke. How can this be when none of the drugs they found had a name on them. Once more we have a story that is as bogus as can be, but than where does this story come from?
To be able to answer this we have to take a look at the search warrant and affidavit again http://www.scribd.com/doc/19058649/Michael-Jackson-search-warrant . I am gonna take you to page 21 of the affidavit, and it all starts on line 12. This is what has been said in the affidavit about Michael using other people’s names to get prescribtion drugs and i quote: “Jackson’s family and news reports have documented that Jackson has used the aliases of: Jack London, Mike Jackson, Frank Tyson and Mic Jackson. They also mention that would have prescriptions written in the names of members of his entourage.”
When i read that i was like “what, i’m not reading this right.” So i read it again to be sure my eyes and mind didn’t trick me. So the police got the info about the aliases from his family and the media? How can they get this info from his family if this same family claims they were kept away from Michael? Don’t get me wrong i’m not saying or implying the family is lying i’m just wondering where the family got this information from.
In the affidavit you can see that the LAPD interviewed Michael’s staff, employees and family members. We all know by now that Jermaine introduced Tohme Tohme to Michael, so could this man have told story’s like this to Michael’s family or was it somebody else who was working for Michael. To be honest i have the feeling there is more than one person who told this the to Michael’s family. Althoug i can’t proof what i’m about to say and i know not many people are gonna like what i’m gonna say, but there is only one other person i can think about who could be involved in planting these stories. So i hope you will hear me out and don’t shoot me for this.
Some of Michael’s employees have been on facebook for some time now, one of them is claiming to be his best friend. Before Michael died this person was full of praise about TII, but after Michael’s dead this person changed her tune a lot. This person claims to be in touch with his family. Not only that after Michael’s death she just keeps implying Michael was an addict, not only in his past but also during the TII rehearsels. To be honest this person acts more like a woman scorned, than anything else. But since she is so open about how addicted Michael might have been and how close she claims to be to the family she might also be the person who told the family things about this. It’s not like she has a clean record when it comes down to Michael, she has done things in the past that were at least insuitable. Don’t get me wrong i’m not saying i am right about this and Karen Faye did this, it’s just a thought from who i think could have told the family this besides Tohme Tohme. Because it would need more than one sourse to make this believeble for the family, and there are no better informants to a family than people that have worked for Michael fors o many years.
Now let’s take a look at the other sourse the LAPD mention for Michael using aliases to get prescriptioned drugs, the media. Since when does the media have a part in giving reliable information when it comes down to Michael? Since when is it normal to use gossip that comes from the media as being factual to proof that Michael used other names to get prescription drugs? All the “proof” the media has for that is pictures the media took from medications that were found during a Neverland raid for the 2005 trial. If you look at the pics the media has put out this time to proof Michael still used aliases to get presciption drugs durin TII i sugest you all take a good close look at the dates on the label of those pill bottles. Since that whole 2005 case was build on false statements there is no doubt in my mind that this so called “evidence” was false back than too. So that not only makes it bogus back than but also make is bogus right now.
When i kept on reading in the affidavit i found the LAPD is also using another sourse for their information about Michael using other names to get presciptioned drugs. As it seems the police got a call on Juli 17th from an unknown female caller. This unknown female has stated that she had information that Michael used aliases when he visited dr Klein. She also give them some namest hat Michael was using as aliases according to her. Since when is an unknown female a source you can trust. If you are working for the police wouldn’t you want to have this persons name to be able to check her storie? If you want to build a sollid case you would want to be sure that the sources you used are reliable, so you can use these people to take the stand when it comes to a point you will have to go to court. If you can’t put people like this on the stand all the evidence you are gonna show in court will be hearsay, and that way any defence lawyer will use this to their own benifit.
Another question i have is how did the chefs name get to beo n the list as being used by Michael to get prescripiton drugs? For that we have to take a look at the source it comes from, and once again it’s the media again. And yet again they twisted some facts. To show you what the real story is about the chef’s name being used for prescription drugs i am going back to the affidavit again. There is no mentioning about the chef’s name being found or used by Michael to get prescriptioned drugs. All it says in the affidavit is:”Through interviews of Jackson’s staff, employees and family, investigators determined that at the time of his death, Jackson’s closest circle of associates includes….”
After that they mentioned some names. I haven’t writen them down yet because i want to show you the complete list of names nicely put in one row. Keep in mind that these names don’t come from labels on pillbotles. They come from family, media and an unknown female combined with a list of people that were in Michael’s life just shortly before Michael died.
Here are the names the police mention in the affidavit:
- Jack London
- Mike Jackson
- Mick Jackson
- Frank Tyson
- Mic Jackson
- Michael Amir William Muhammad
- Jimmy Nicolas
- Blanca Nicolas
- Roselyn Muhammad
- Prince Jackson
- Faheem Muhammad
- Kai Chase
- Omar Arnold
- Fernand Diaz
- Peter Madonie
- Josephine Baker
Now does this list look familiar to you? Isn’t this almost the same list as the media claims that this are the aliases Michael used to get prescriptioned drugs? I hope you now see how the media is giving false information. They just combined the names on the affidavit and put their own story to it to be able to sell this as just one more things that proof Michael was addicted to prescriptioned drugs and would do just about anything to get it.
There is only one name from that whole list, that they found on a prescription. Please read this the right way it was on a presciption not on a pill bottle. The name is Omar Arnold…and guess what…surprise surprise…that perscription was written by, dr Klein.
You all must have heared about the news reports that the media claimed that Michael used the chef’s name to get drugs. The chef herself she didn’t know anything about it and seemed very shocked when this story brooke. How can this be when none of the drugs they found had a name on them. Once more we have a story that is as bogus as can be, but than where does this story come from?
To be able to answer this we have to take a look at the search warrant and affidavit again http://www.scribd.com/doc/19058649/Michael-Jackson-search-warrant . I am gonna take you to page 21 of the affidavit, and it all starts on line 12. This is what has been said in the affidavit about Michael using other people’s names to get prescribtion drugs and i quote: “Jackson’s family and news reports have documented that Jackson has used the aliases of: Jack London, Mike Jackson, Frank Tyson and Mic Jackson. They also mention that would have prescriptions written in the names of members of his entourage.”
When i read that i was like “what, i’m not reading this right.” So i read it again to be sure my eyes and mind didn’t trick me. So the police got the info about the aliases from his family and the media? How can they get this info from his family if this same family claims they were kept away from Michael? Don’t get me wrong i’m not saying or implying the family is lying i’m just wondering where the family got this information from.
In the affidavit you can see that the LAPD interviewed Michael’s staff, employees and family members. We all know by now that Jermaine introduced Tohme Tohme to Michael, so could this man have told story’s like this to Michael’s family or was it somebody else who was working for Michael. To be honest i have the feeling there is more than one person who told this the to Michael’s family. Althoug i can’t proof what i’m about to say and i know not many people are gonna like what i’m gonna say, but there is only one other person i can think about who could be involved in planting these stories. So i hope you will hear me out and don’t shoot me for this.
Some of Michael’s employees have been on facebook for some time now, one of them is claiming to be his best friend. Before Michael died this person was full of praise about TII, but after Michael’s dead this person changed her tune a lot. This person claims to be in touch with his family. Not only that after Michael’s death she just keeps implying Michael was an addict, not only in his past but also during the TII rehearsels. To be honest this person acts more like a woman scorned, than anything else. But since she is so open about how addicted Michael might have been and how close she claims to be to the family she might also be the person who told the family things about this. It’s not like she has a clean record when it comes down to Michael, she has done things in the past that were at least insuitable. Don’t get me wrong i’m not saying i am right about this and Karen Faye did this, it’s just a thought from who i think could have told the family this besides Tohme Tohme. Because it would need more than one sourse to make this believeble for the family, and there are no better informants to a family than people that have worked for Michael fors o many years.
Now let’s take a look at the other sourse the LAPD mention for Michael using aliases to get prescriptioned drugs, the media. Since when does the media have a part in giving reliable information when it comes down to Michael? Since when is it normal to use gossip that comes from the media as being factual to proof that Michael used other names to get prescription drugs? All the “proof” the media has for that is pictures the media took from medications that were found during a Neverland raid for the 2005 trial. If you look at the pics the media has put out this time to proof Michael still used aliases to get presciption drugs durin TII i sugest you all take a good close look at the dates on the label of those pill bottles. Since that whole 2005 case was build on false statements there is no doubt in my mind that this so called “evidence” was false back than too. So that not only makes it bogus back than but also make is bogus right now.
When i kept on reading in the affidavit i found the LAPD is also using another sourse for their information about Michael using other names to get presciptioned drugs. As it seems the police got a call on Juli 17th from an unknown female caller. This unknown female has stated that she had information that Michael used aliases when he visited dr Klein. She also give them some namest hat Michael was using as aliases according to her. Since when is an unknown female a source you can trust. If you are working for the police wouldn’t you want to have this persons name to be able to check her storie? If you want to build a sollid case you would want to be sure that the sources you used are reliable, so you can use these people to take the stand when it comes to a point you will have to go to court. If you can’t put people like this on the stand all the evidence you are gonna show in court will be hearsay, and that way any defence lawyer will use this to their own benifit.
Another question i have is how did the chefs name get to beo n the list as being used by Michael to get prescripiton drugs? For that we have to take a look at the source it comes from, and once again it’s the media again. And yet again they twisted some facts. To show you what the real story is about the chef’s name being used for prescription drugs i am going back to the affidavit again. There is no mentioning about the chef’s name being found or used by Michael to get prescriptioned drugs. All it says in the affidavit is:”Through interviews of Jackson’s staff, employees and family, investigators determined that at the time of his death, Jackson’s closest circle of associates includes….”
After that they mentioned some names. I haven’t writen them down yet because i want to show you the complete list of names nicely put in one row. Keep in mind that these names don’t come from labels on pillbotles. They come from family, media and an unknown female combined with a list of people that were in Michael’s life just shortly before Michael died.
Here are the names the police mention in the affidavit:
- Jack London
- Mike Jackson
- Mick Jackson
- Frank Tyson
- Mic Jackson
- Michael Amir William Muhammad
- Jimmy Nicolas
- Blanca Nicolas
- Roselyn Muhammad
- Prince Jackson
- Faheem Muhammad
- Kai Chase
- Omar Arnold
- Fernand Diaz
- Peter Madonie
- Josephine Baker
Now does this list look familiar to you? Isn’t this almost the same list as the media claims that this are the aliases Michael used to get prescriptioned drugs? I hope you now see how the media is giving false information. They just combined the names on the affidavit and put their own story to it to be able to sell this as just one more things that proof Michael was addicted to prescriptioned drugs and would do just about anything to get it.
There is only one name from that whole list, that they found on a prescription. Please read this the right way it was on a presciption not on a pill bottle. The name is Omar Arnold…and guess what…surprise surprise…that perscription was written by, dr Klein.
Part TwentyTwo - Cleaning the House
A lot of people are wondering about things the LAPD did, or better say what the LAPD didn’t do right after Michael was declared death at the hospital. Some of these things a already mentioned a bit before. I mean what took them so long to talk to the staff that where at the house before Michael was taken to the hospital. Another thing a lot of peope wonder about is why Michael’s house wasn’t sealed.
I want to start by saying once more that i agree not sealing Michael’s house was a bad move. After CM disapeared from the hospital alarmbells should have been ringing imo this was a big red flag that something was not right. But no matter that we don’t like this false start of the investigation the truth is that at the start the police didn’t think it was foul play. As far as they knew Michael died at the hospital, so for them there was no reason to see Michael’s house as a crime scene and seal it at that point. And in a way it’s even easy to say the LAPD was wrong but we must not forget we saw all this media coverage going on from the start wich the investigators probebly didn’t see at that time.
We’ve all heard the cheff say that right after Michael was taken to the hospital all the staff was sent home. I don’t know who exectly give the orders but the word goes around that it was Tohme Tohme who told them this. I think this is a strange move, wouldn’t you want the staff to be together until it’s more clear what is going on and also to make sure that the media couldn’t get to these people at this point? Or was sending the staff home a way to makei t more difficult to talk to them? Because now the LAPD would first have to get all personall files from these people before they could get in touch with them. That would just take more time than keeping the people all in the same house wouldn’t it?
Now let’s take a look at how fast moving vans went to Michael’s house, this was just two days after Michael’s death. The moving vans were there on the same day (June 27th) that the word came out that Conrad Murray’s car was impounded, and that the police searched Michael’s house for the first time. The first time the police searched the house was on June 26th. So it could very well be the LAPD gave Janet and LaToya permission to do this. But the possebility that all these people could have been in the house will also give a very good reason to doubt any “evidence” the police found after this day. Everybody that set foot in Michael’s house could have planted anything in Michael’s house. And if we can already figure this out than so will a defence lawyer.
We know now that the police searched Michael’s home twice, the first one probebly took place at the same time the LAPD impounded Conrad Murray’s car, and before the moving vans came. As for as i know they didn’t find anything the first time they looked. The second time they searched the house was on june 29th, after Judge C. Omedo issued a search warrant. We can find all kinds of info about this in the same search warrant and affidavit i’ve been talking about in my notes all the time. In that search warrant the they also mention the things they found in Michael’s house on Carrolwooddrive. I will put the things they found down, so you all don’t have to go through that warrant and affidavit again. But if you want to check this info it’s on page 20 lines 19-24. You will also read there that none of the items were labeled as prescribed to any patiënt.
Here is what they found:
- Multiple bottles/vails of Lidocaine (Xylocaine).
- Several bottles /vails of Propofol (Diprivan).
- Bottles/vails of Lorazepam (Ativan).
- Bottles/vails of Midazolam (Versed).
- Bottles/vails of Flumazenil (Anexate).
Now in late August, to be exact on august 27th the word came out that there was “heroin” found at Michael’s house. But the stories about by who it was found are conflicting.. Some say it was LaToya who found a bag in Michael’s bedroom and she handed it over to the police because she thought it was heroin. The other storie is that the police found it in Michael’s bedroom on june 26th. After this “herion” was investigated it turned out it wasn’t herion at all but very old Marijuani. Now for some reason i don’t believe it was found on june 26th at all. After all the word was nothing was found back than, and i think i fit was found at that time it would have been mentioned in the search warrant and affidavit i keep mentioning. As a matter of fact i think this information is incorrect all the way because the Law inforcement have disputed that this was in a warrant. So i for one do not care who these so called “close sourses to the investigation” are, the truth is that this is once more a story we can flush down the drain.
To me it looks pretty strange that they didn’t find any of this when the LAPD first went to Michael’s house. And sinse the house wasn’t sealed anybody could have planted these medicine and the drugs at the house. For me this proofs once more that somebody wanted it real bad that Michael would be painted of as an drugaddict. The media was covering about these finds big time. And since a lot of people only go by what they hear, instead of looking in to things and investigate if the info they are getting from the media is true, the find of the meds and drugs proof to these people that Michael was indeed an addict.
It is a bit to convinient that the media keeps saying that they get their information from “sources close to the investigation” “sources close to the familie””an unknown sourse has revieled”. I’m getting sick and tired of all these people who keep spreading these rumours. While these “sources” are doing this they confuse a whole lot of people, fans and no fans, and distract everything and everybody from the facts regarding Michael’s murder. I’ve said it before and i will say it again, the addiction we here about is nothing more and nothing less than one big smoke screen. Somebody is cleaning the house
I want to start by saying once more that i agree not sealing Michael’s house was a bad move. After CM disapeared from the hospital alarmbells should have been ringing imo this was a big red flag that something was not right. But no matter that we don’t like this false start of the investigation the truth is that at the start the police didn’t think it was foul play. As far as they knew Michael died at the hospital, so for them there was no reason to see Michael’s house as a crime scene and seal it at that point. And in a way it’s even easy to say the LAPD was wrong but we must not forget we saw all this media coverage going on from the start wich the investigators probebly didn’t see at that time.
We’ve all heard the cheff say that right after Michael was taken to the hospital all the staff was sent home. I don’t know who exectly give the orders but the word goes around that it was Tohme Tohme who told them this. I think this is a strange move, wouldn’t you want the staff to be together until it’s more clear what is going on and also to make sure that the media couldn’t get to these people at this point? Or was sending the staff home a way to makei t more difficult to talk to them? Because now the LAPD would first have to get all personall files from these people before they could get in touch with them. That would just take more time than keeping the people all in the same house wouldn’t it?
Now let’s take a look at how fast moving vans went to Michael’s house, this was just two days after Michael’s death. The moving vans were there on the same day (June 27th) that the word came out that Conrad Murray’s car was impounded, and that the police searched Michael’s house for the first time. The first time the police searched the house was on June 26th. So it could very well be the LAPD gave Janet and LaToya permission to do this. But the possebility that all these people could have been in the house will also give a very good reason to doubt any “evidence” the police found after this day. Everybody that set foot in Michael’s house could have planted anything in Michael’s house. And if we can already figure this out than so will a defence lawyer.
We know now that the police searched Michael’s home twice, the first one probebly took place at the same time the LAPD impounded Conrad Murray’s car, and before the moving vans came. As for as i know they didn’t find anything the first time they looked. The second time they searched the house was on june 29th, after Judge C. Omedo issued a search warrant. We can find all kinds of info about this in the same search warrant and affidavit i’ve been talking about in my notes all the time. In that search warrant the they also mention the things they found in Michael’s house on Carrolwooddrive. I will put the things they found down, so you all don’t have to go through that warrant and affidavit again. But if you want to check this info it’s on page 20 lines 19-24. You will also read there that none of the items were labeled as prescribed to any patiënt.
Here is what they found:
- Multiple bottles/vails of Lidocaine (Xylocaine).
- Several bottles /vails of Propofol (Diprivan).
- Bottles/vails of Lorazepam (Ativan).
- Bottles/vails of Midazolam (Versed).
- Bottles/vails of Flumazenil (Anexate).
Now in late August, to be exact on august 27th the word came out that there was “heroin” found at Michael’s house. But the stories about by who it was found are conflicting.. Some say it was LaToya who found a bag in Michael’s bedroom and she handed it over to the police because she thought it was heroin. The other storie is that the police found it in Michael’s bedroom on june 26th. After this “herion” was investigated it turned out it wasn’t herion at all but very old Marijuani. Now for some reason i don’t believe it was found on june 26th at all. After all the word was nothing was found back than, and i think i fit was found at that time it would have been mentioned in the search warrant and affidavit i keep mentioning. As a matter of fact i think this information is incorrect all the way because the Law inforcement have disputed that this was in a warrant. So i for one do not care who these so called “close sourses to the investigation” are, the truth is that this is once more a story we can flush down the drain.
To me it looks pretty strange that they didn’t find any of this when the LAPD first went to Michael’s house. And sinse the house wasn’t sealed anybody could have planted these medicine and the drugs at the house. For me this proofs once more that somebody wanted it real bad that Michael would be painted of as an drugaddict. The media was covering about these finds big time. And since a lot of people only go by what they hear, instead of looking in to things and investigate if the info they are getting from the media is true, the find of the meds and drugs proof to these people that Michael was indeed an addict.
It is a bit to convinient that the media keeps saying that they get their information from “sources close to the investigation” “sources close to the familie””an unknown sourse has revieled”. I’m getting sick and tired of all these people who keep spreading these rumours. While these “sources” are doing this they confuse a whole lot of people, fans and no fans, and distract everything and everybody from the facts regarding Michael’s murder. I’ve said it before and i will say it again, the addiction we here about is nothing more and nothing less than one big smoke screen. Somebody is cleaning the house
Part TwentyOne - Ringing or Pumping
You know i just realized i have hardly told you anything about the time of death or the phonecalls that Conrad Murray made. I mention both these things in the same line for a reason so i hope you ill hear me out to find out why i do that. A lot of people believe Michael was already gone before the EMT’s got to him. I’ve mentioned that they wanted to call it but that Conrad Murray overruled them. We don’t know if the coronor has been able to get the real time of Michael’s death but i wouldn’t be surpised one bit i fit turns out to be sooner that they have tol dus so for. So maybe for now it is a good idea to talk about this a bit more.
To be able to talk about it we need to look at the search warrant and affidavit again http://www.scribd.com/doc/19058649/Michael-Jackson-search-warrant In there we can clearly see Conrad Murray mentioning he started CPR right after he found Michael not breathing. If we go by the story Conrad Murray told the LAPD that would have been aroun 10.52am. Conrad Murray mentioned he called Michael Amir Williams to sent security upstairs. No where does Conrad Murray mention anything about making other phonecalls but as we coninue to read the affidavit we can see that the LAPD found something about other phonecalls. Let’s take a look at page 20 line 14, i quote: “Your affiant obtained Murray’s cellular Telephone records for the early morning hours of june 25, 2009.”
Now let’s take a closer look at what this is all about and where it leads us. In the affidavit we can read that these phonerecords show that Conrad Murray was on the phone fora bout 47 minutes. The calls started at 11.18am and ended at 12.05pm. There were three different phonecalls made. Now how on earth was it possible that Conrad Murray was on the phone all this time and still performing CPR? Unless this guy is an alien with six arms and hands there is no way possible that he could have done this. So imo we can rule out that he performed CPR since the LAPD have evidence that proofs he was on the phone.
The warrant doesn’t mention where the phones were made to, nor does it mention if Conrad Murray left the room to make these calls. But if you search the internet there is speculation going on about who he called. I guess we better take a look at what this speculation is all about but also we have to keep in mind that we can’t be sure until we get to see the actual phonerecords that this is the real deal about the phonerecords. Apperently Conrad Murray called dr. Klein first for advice because something went wrong. Than after that he also phoned a lawyer. Like i said i don’t know if this is all true but there is more. There is also talk about Conrad Murray calling his Houston office telling two office workers to clear out a storage facility. There is also the word out that Conrad Murray was on the phone with his Houston girlfriend at the time Conrad Murray found Michael. According to these talks this girlfriend has said she heard Conrad Murray entering Michael’s room and that he asked her to hold on, the next thing she claims to be hearing was Conrad Murray performing CPR. This according to her happend between 12.05pm and 12.13pm. This last thing looks like a big fat ly to me, it’s like a girlfriend trying to keep her boyfriend safe more than anything else if you ask me. As a matter of fact all of the phonecalls suggest that Conrad Murray knew exactly what was going on and that he was trying to cover his ass big time.
Michael imo was already gone when Conrad Murray was making these phonecalls, at the latest i think he died somewhere between 10.40am and 11.18am. I say at the latest because we don’t know what the coronor has found out about the time of death and the only thing i have as a guide for the timeline is the search warrant i keep talking about. I’ve already explained to you that the coronor has said that Michael died because of Acute Propofol Intoxecation. The word acute is the word that really matters when it comes down to the time i think Michael was killed. In this case acute means he died suddenly. Now according to Conrad Murray he give Michael propofol at 10.40am. If you combine the coronors finding we have heard together with when Conrad Murray said he give Michael propofol and the time the phonecalls started you can only come to the conclusion that the time of Michael’s death was between 10.40am and 11.18am.
I’m not saying i am correct about the time of Michael’s death, because we still don’t know about all the other things the coronor or the LAPD have found. We don’t even know if the timeline about the meds Conrad Murray is talking about is true. After all we have already discoverd so many lies and contradictions comming from Conrad Murray that if this timeline is incorrect it can very well be that Michael even died earlier than the time i say.
Also the thing i need to point out is that this still doesn’t mean Conrad Murray is actually the one who killed Michael. Although he says he give Michael propofol after all the lies and contradictions we have heard he might also be lying about that.
One thing i do know is that the more i look into this the less sence things seem to make. It looks like a lot of people are covering up things, and it ain’t just Conrad Murray doing the covering up. The more i hear, read and see the more people there seem to be involved in this one way or another.
To be able to talk about it we need to look at the search warrant and affidavit again http://www.scribd.com/doc/19058649/Michael-Jackson-search-warrant In there we can clearly see Conrad Murray mentioning he started CPR right after he found Michael not breathing. If we go by the story Conrad Murray told the LAPD that would have been aroun 10.52am. Conrad Murray mentioned he called Michael Amir Williams to sent security upstairs. No where does Conrad Murray mention anything about making other phonecalls but as we coninue to read the affidavit we can see that the LAPD found something about other phonecalls. Let’s take a look at page 20 line 14, i quote: “Your affiant obtained Murray’s cellular Telephone records for the early morning hours of june 25, 2009.”
Now let’s take a closer look at what this is all about and where it leads us. In the affidavit we can read that these phonerecords show that Conrad Murray was on the phone fora bout 47 minutes. The calls started at 11.18am and ended at 12.05pm. There were three different phonecalls made. Now how on earth was it possible that Conrad Murray was on the phone all this time and still performing CPR? Unless this guy is an alien with six arms and hands there is no way possible that he could have done this. So imo we can rule out that he performed CPR since the LAPD have evidence that proofs he was on the phone.
The warrant doesn’t mention where the phones were made to, nor does it mention if Conrad Murray left the room to make these calls. But if you search the internet there is speculation going on about who he called. I guess we better take a look at what this speculation is all about but also we have to keep in mind that we can’t be sure until we get to see the actual phonerecords that this is the real deal about the phonerecords. Apperently Conrad Murray called dr. Klein first for advice because something went wrong. Than after that he also phoned a lawyer. Like i said i don’t know if this is all true but there is more. There is also talk about Conrad Murray calling his Houston office telling two office workers to clear out a storage facility. There is also the word out that Conrad Murray was on the phone with his Houston girlfriend at the time Conrad Murray found Michael. According to these talks this girlfriend has said she heard Conrad Murray entering Michael’s room and that he asked her to hold on, the next thing she claims to be hearing was Conrad Murray performing CPR. This according to her happend between 12.05pm and 12.13pm. This last thing looks like a big fat ly to me, it’s like a girlfriend trying to keep her boyfriend safe more than anything else if you ask me. As a matter of fact all of the phonecalls suggest that Conrad Murray knew exactly what was going on and that he was trying to cover his ass big time.
Michael imo was already gone when Conrad Murray was making these phonecalls, at the latest i think he died somewhere between 10.40am and 11.18am. I say at the latest because we don’t know what the coronor has found out about the time of death and the only thing i have as a guide for the timeline is the search warrant i keep talking about. I’ve already explained to you that the coronor has said that Michael died because of Acute Propofol Intoxecation. The word acute is the word that really matters when it comes down to the time i think Michael was killed. In this case acute means he died suddenly. Now according to Conrad Murray he give Michael propofol at 10.40am. If you combine the coronors finding we have heard together with when Conrad Murray said he give Michael propofol and the time the phonecalls started you can only come to the conclusion that the time of Michael’s death was between 10.40am and 11.18am.
I’m not saying i am correct about the time of Michael’s death, because we still don’t know about all the other things the coronor or the LAPD have found. We don’t even know if the timeline about the meds Conrad Murray is talking about is true. After all we have already discoverd so many lies and contradictions comming from Conrad Murray that if this timeline is incorrect it can very well be that Michael even died earlier than the time i say.
Also the thing i need to point out is that this still doesn’t mean Conrad Murray is actually the one who killed Michael. Although he says he give Michael propofol after all the lies and contradictions we have heard he might also be lying about that.
One thing i do know is that the more i look into this the less sence things seem to make. It looks like a lot of people are covering up things, and it ain’t just Conrad Murray doing the covering up. The more i hear, read and see the more people there seem to be involved in this one way or another.
Part Twenty - Quit Quo Pro
For some reason i feel the need to talk a bit about the media. It’s really hard to tell wich media outlet is legit these days and wich isn’t. All the legit media seems to do is just copie and past the stories the tabloids start. While i’m writing this down i realize it’s the same media we all hate so much that gives us the information about what happend to Michael on june 25th and how this case is moving.
I won’t go into the details about what the media all did to Michael while he was alive.There is already very much written about that by others and i’m still waiting for people like Diane Dimond and Nancy Grace to eat crow. And Martin Bashir should never be able to make another documentry, for all i care this man should rot in jail for what he did to Michael. So now i’ve got that of my chest i can go on with the things i really want to talk about.
The thing i want to point out is that it doesn’t seem like much has changed when it comes down how the media treats Michael. Sure the media has changed their tone a bit, but that only happend after the TII docu turned out to be a huge succes. I’m happy to see that Michael is finally being recognized for all the good things he did. Right now he’s is getting award after award. And although it makes me proud it also makes me sad at the same time. I cry when i think about how they all ignored him while he was alive, and now that he’s gone some are finally giving him the credits he deserved. The truth is that they all should have done all this while he was still alive.
I don’t understand a lot of things the media does. Just take a look at how they kept pushing the addiction story into our stomacks. And even though it was already known since august 28th that Michael’s death was ruled a homicide they hardly mention anything about it. Hence as soon as i found out i even sent the copies of the death certificate together with a copie of the articles that talked about this homicide to the Dutch newspapers, and they just ignored it. I know i’m not the only fan that did this. Fans all over the World did the same things i did, they all sent that info in late august to their media outlets, and that too got ignored.That is until about januari 10th 2010, than finally the media starts to talk a bit about it. But still they keep pushing the addiction story at the same time.
I know i shouldn’t compair Michael’s Murder to the OJ Simpson case but just look at the difference. The media was all over OJ who was suspected of killing his ex-wife, the media followed him everywhere. In Europe or other parts of the World nobody ever heard about OJ untill the press covered that case big time. And now we look at Michael, a man the whole World knows about one way or another. In Michael’s case we have a doctor as a prime suspect and it looks like the media is totally ignoring this doctor, and try to put the blame all on Michael once again.
We’ve seen and have heard everybody and their mama talk and give interviews. And there seems to be something missing there. I know that the entertainment business cuts and edit stories any way they see it fit to reach there goal. But we must not forget the people that are on talkshows and giving interviews have their own goals too. They all use eachother, big time.
Okay enough about that let’s return to the thing i said that there seems to be something missing while people are being interviewed. I really hope i’m not alone in this one, but so many times i’m watching something and i’m just waiting for some questions to be asked. Take for instance the nurse Lee interview, she has been asked if she went to the authorities and her answer was no. Weren’t you all waiting just like me for the question Why she didn’t go there? Or when you look at the interviews the chef gave, nobody asked her why she didn’t go and ask security if Michael was indeed sleeping late that day? Or when people from the family give interviews, most of them talk about wanting to do an intervention in the past, and yet they don’t bother to ask what kind of intervention they are talking about or when this intervention was suposte to take place.
Look at a show such as Larry King Live where you can sent in your questions for the person who is gonna be on that show. I know for a fact that when LKL was about Michael’s death that many fans sent in questions they would like to see an answer too. But it seems that those questions fans asked weren’t being asked, mostly the interviews were just like random talk, it’s like they talk about hey how was your day and how is the weather at your place.
To be honest i haven’t seen much programs that look a bit more into this case. Sure they give information about how propofol worked but in that same program it was all about addiction again. As far as i have seen not one program bothered to zoom in on the prime suspect in this case, no background information what so ever about CM.
I’m sure that there are desent and honest journalists and writers out there that try to get more information out in the open but fors ome reason these people are ignored. It’s almost like somebody is pulling some strings in medialand to not talk about Michael’s Homicide as a Homicide case and to not aks in depth questions. Of course the media and entertainment business go hand in hand, they need eachother. Maybe that is the reason why i feel somebody is pulling the strings, after all it’s all about “Quit Quo Pro”, in other words you do this for me and i do another thing for you.
I won’t go into the details about what the media all did to Michael while he was alive.There is already very much written about that by others and i’m still waiting for people like Diane Dimond and Nancy Grace to eat crow. And Martin Bashir should never be able to make another documentry, for all i care this man should rot in jail for what he did to Michael. So now i’ve got that of my chest i can go on with the things i really want to talk about.
The thing i want to point out is that it doesn’t seem like much has changed when it comes down how the media treats Michael. Sure the media has changed their tone a bit, but that only happend after the TII docu turned out to be a huge succes. I’m happy to see that Michael is finally being recognized for all the good things he did. Right now he’s is getting award after award. And although it makes me proud it also makes me sad at the same time. I cry when i think about how they all ignored him while he was alive, and now that he’s gone some are finally giving him the credits he deserved. The truth is that they all should have done all this while he was still alive.
I don’t understand a lot of things the media does. Just take a look at how they kept pushing the addiction story into our stomacks. And even though it was already known since august 28th that Michael’s death was ruled a homicide they hardly mention anything about it. Hence as soon as i found out i even sent the copies of the death certificate together with a copie of the articles that talked about this homicide to the Dutch newspapers, and they just ignored it. I know i’m not the only fan that did this. Fans all over the World did the same things i did, they all sent that info in late august to their media outlets, and that too got ignored.That is until about januari 10th 2010, than finally the media starts to talk a bit about it. But still they keep pushing the addiction story at the same time.
I know i shouldn’t compair Michael’s Murder to the OJ Simpson case but just look at the difference. The media was all over OJ who was suspected of killing his ex-wife, the media followed him everywhere. In Europe or other parts of the World nobody ever heard about OJ untill the press covered that case big time. And now we look at Michael, a man the whole World knows about one way or another. In Michael’s case we have a doctor as a prime suspect and it looks like the media is totally ignoring this doctor, and try to put the blame all on Michael once again.
We’ve seen and have heard everybody and their mama talk and give interviews. And there seems to be something missing there. I know that the entertainment business cuts and edit stories any way they see it fit to reach there goal. But we must not forget the people that are on talkshows and giving interviews have their own goals too. They all use eachother, big time.
Okay enough about that let’s return to the thing i said that there seems to be something missing while people are being interviewed. I really hope i’m not alone in this one, but so many times i’m watching something and i’m just waiting for some questions to be asked. Take for instance the nurse Lee interview, she has been asked if she went to the authorities and her answer was no. Weren’t you all waiting just like me for the question Why she didn’t go there? Or when you look at the interviews the chef gave, nobody asked her why she didn’t go and ask security if Michael was indeed sleeping late that day? Or when people from the family give interviews, most of them talk about wanting to do an intervention in the past, and yet they don’t bother to ask what kind of intervention they are talking about or when this intervention was suposte to take place.
Look at a show such as Larry King Live where you can sent in your questions for the person who is gonna be on that show. I know for a fact that when LKL was about Michael’s death that many fans sent in questions they would like to see an answer too. But it seems that those questions fans asked weren’t being asked, mostly the interviews were just like random talk, it’s like they talk about hey how was your day and how is the weather at your place.
To be honest i haven’t seen much programs that look a bit more into this case. Sure they give information about how propofol worked but in that same program it was all about addiction again. As far as i have seen not one program bothered to zoom in on the prime suspect in this case, no background information what so ever about CM.
I’m sure that there are desent and honest journalists and writers out there that try to get more information out in the open but fors ome reason these people are ignored. It’s almost like somebody is pulling some strings in medialand to not talk about Michael’s Homicide as a Homicide case and to not aks in depth questions. Of course the media and entertainment business go hand in hand, they need eachother. Maybe that is the reason why i feel somebody is pulling the strings, after all it’s all about “Quit Quo Pro”, in other words you do this for me and i do another thing for you.
Part Nineteen - Conrad Murray versus Nurse Lee
At this point i want to take you back to the search warrant and affidavit again http://www.scribd.com/doc/19058649/Michael-Jackson-search-warrant This because i mentioned nurse Lee giving interviews to the media before she went to the authorities with her storie. I know most of you all found out about the propofol because nurse Lee mentioned it in the media before anybody else did, but the truth is this doesn’t matter at all. The thing that matters most is where did the LAPD first hear about the propofol and as i already explaind that person was Conrad Murray himself. Don’t ask me why he did mention it to them and not to the EMT’s or the doctor at the hospital, i really can’t answer that one with facts. The only thing i can think of why he didn’t mention it to them is because he wanted to hide something.
On page 20 of the warrant and affidavit Conrad Murray starts to talk about other doctors who give Michael propofol and other meds in the past. According to Conrad Murray he got this information from Michael himself. The strange thing is that Conrad Murray or his lawyers at one point said Conrad Murray didn’t know about Michael’s medical/drug problems. So once more we have a contradiction here, wich imo proves we are dealing with a man who knew very well what he was talkin gabout and what he was doing. If it’s true he got the information from Michael himself i don’t know. All i can say is he knew about Michael’s medical record somehow because he mentioned the use of propofol in the past, and that other doctors give Michael meds that didn’t work. He even mentioned some other doctors names such as dr. Klein, dr Metzger and dr Adams. In this part of the search warrant he even referes to nurse Lee as dr. Lee.
Why don’t we all take a look at what he said on june 27th to the LAPD about nurse Lee. Conrad Murray says that after he say injection marks on Michael’s hands and feed he asked Michael about that and according to CM and i quote from the affidavit “Jackson stated that doctor Cherilyn Lee had been giving him a “coctail” to help him. Murray believed the coctail to be a propofol (diprivan) mix.” There is no explenation given why he believes this “coctail” was a propofol mix.
We all know now that on june 29th nurse Lee came out with her story. The thing that i kept asking myself is why did she come out. At first i thought it was because she wanted to help to put the investigation on the right track. But than i heard her say she didn’t go to the police to talk about that, wich i feel is the wrong way to do. I mean i can imagne if she is telling the truth that she wanted to be heard but why not try to contact the authorities first and when that doesn’t work than you turn to te media. Also i felt at first she was trying to clear Michael’s name by stating loud and clear she never saw signs that Michael was addicted. That was all untill after i read the search warrant and affidavit again and took another look at what CM said about her. Now i’m more like ok i totally understand now why she talked to the press first. To me it looks like she somehow smelled she had to come out and tell her story to the public to sidetrack us. After reading this and thinking about it i’m even thinking that her statement had nothing to do with clearing Michael’s name or helping the investigation, but that she did all this to clear nobody else but herself. She knew it would be just a matter of time untill the LAPD would ask her about Michael and to cover her own butt she made sure she was one step ahead of them by putting her story out like that.
Since i mention that Conrad Murray told the LAPD nurse Lee give Michael a coctail to help him i think it’s only fair to take a look at what nurse Lee herself has to say about this coctail. She firmly denies she ever give Michael propofol and that the coctail that Conrad Murray was talking about was a Meyers coctail. A Myers cocktail is an an intravenous blend of vitamins and minerals, it includes magnesium, calcium, several B vitamins and vitamin C.. Nurse Lee said Michael wanted it so he would have more energy. Now we have two things that are kind of contradicting eachother. I bet you all remember that nurse Lee talked about Michael having trouble sleeping and ask her for propofol. On the other hand she says he wanted something that give him more energy. If a person is looking so hard for something to get him to sleep, why would he ask for something that gives him just the opposite?
Please don’t get me wrong i’m not saying nurse Lee is lying, but i don’t think she is telling the whole truth either. If you look at both nurse Lee and Conrad Murray they both have something to do with holistic medicine, even though i couldn’t find anything sof ar that relates Conrad Murray to holistic medicine, people keep saying he was a holistic doctor. It could very well be that this is how nurse Lee and Conrad Murray got connected with eachother.
They seem to be fingerpointing at eachother very much and that gives me a very uncomfortable feeling. They both claim that one of Michael’s children having a cold is how they met Michael, they both say Michael asked/begged for propofol. And for me it feels like there is something going on between CM and nurse Lee, but so far i haven’t been able to put my finger on what it is that gives me this creepy feeling.
On page 20 of the warrant and affidavit Conrad Murray starts to talk about other doctors who give Michael propofol and other meds in the past. According to Conrad Murray he got this information from Michael himself. The strange thing is that Conrad Murray or his lawyers at one point said Conrad Murray didn’t know about Michael’s medical/drug problems. So once more we have a contradiction here, wich imo proves we are dealing with a man who knew very well what he was talkin gabout and what he was doing. If it’s true he got the information from Michael himself i don’t know. All i can say is he knew about Michael’s medical record somehow because he mentioned the use of propofol in the past, and that other doctors give Michael meds that didn’t work. He even mentioned some other doctors names such as dr. Klein, dr Metzger and dr Adams. In this part of the search warrant he even referes to nurse Lee as dr. Lee.
Why don’t we all take a look at what he said on june 27th to the LAPD about nurse Lee. Conrad Murray says that after he say injection marks on Michael’s hands and feed he asked Michael about that and according to CM and i quote from the affidavit “Jackson stated that doctor Cherilyn Lee had been giving him a “coctail” to help him. Murray believed the coctail to be a propofol (diprivan) mix.” There is no explenation given why he believes this “coctail” was a propofol mix.
We all know now that on june 29th nurse Lee came out with her story. The thing that i kept asking myself is why did she come out. At first i thought it was because she wanted to help to put the investigation on the right track. But than i heard her say she didn’t go to the police to talk about that, wich i feel is the wrong way to do. I mean i can imagne if she is telling the truth that she wanted to be heard but why not try to contact the authorities first and when that doesn’t work than you turn to te media. Also i felt at first she was trying to clear Michael’s name by stating loud and clear she never saw signs that Michael was addicted. That was all untill after i read the search warrant and affidavit again and took another look at what CM said about her. Now i’m more like ok i totally understand now why she talked to the press first. To me it looks like she somehow smelled she had to come out and tell her story to the public to sidetrack us. After reading this and thinking about it i’m even thinking that her statement had nothing to do with clearing Michael’s name or helping the investigation, but that she did all this to clear nobody else but herself. She knew it would be just a matter of time untill the LAPD would ask her about Michael and to cover her own butt she made sure she was one step ahead of them by putting her story out like that.
Since i mention that Conrad Murray told the LAPD nurse Lee give Michael a coctail to help him i think it’s only fair to take a look at what nurse Lee herself has to say about this coctail. She firmly denies she ever give Michael propofol and that the coctail that Conrad Murray was talking about was a Meyers coctail. A Myers cocktail is an an intravenous blend of vitamins and minerals, it includes magnesium, calcium, several B vitamins and vitamin C.. Nurse Lee said Michael wanted it so he would have more energy. Now we have two things that are kind of contradicting eachother. I bet you all remember that nurse Lee talked about Michael having trouble sleeping and ask her for propofol. On the other hand she says he wanted something that give him more energy. If a person is looking so hard for something to get him to sleep, why would he ask for something that gives him just the opposite?
Please don’t get me wrong i’m not saying nurse Lee is lying, but i don’t think she is telling the whole truth either. If you look at both nurse Lee and Conrad Murray they both have something to do with holistic medicine, even though i couldn’t find anything sof ar that relates Conrad Murray to holistic medicine, people keep saying he was a holistic doctor. It could very well be that this is how nurse Lee and Conrad Murray got connected with eachother.
They seem to be fingerpointing at eachother very much and that gives me a very uncomfortable feeling. They both claim that one of Michael’s children having a cold is how they met Michael, they both say Michael asked/begged for propofol. And for me it feels like there is something going on between CM and nurse Lee, but so far i haven’t been able to put my finger on what it is that gives me this creepy feeling.
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